[NO PLAYERS] WW err CIV6 Game 4

[Dreylin]

It will be interesting to see how Japper's District before Settler plays out. It should easily get him the first Prophet as well as the Eureka for Early Empire which is usually missed. Downside of course is the slower settling, but with discrete islands there's little short to medium term competition for land. I think it could turn out to be a strong play.

[Cornflakes]

By the way, when looking at the settler production cost, it is still 100 hammers and not 110 hammers. Let's hope the patch doesn't affect it, as I need to produce lots of settlers.

This could be a problem ... Since the cost is still at 100 hammers (cogs) for Singaboy, I wonder if all players who already built a settler will get a game-long 10 cog discount on all future settlers. (e.g. Once Oledavy Japper007 [missed that Oledavy already completed his settler] completes his first settler the cost should go up to 110 for his 2nd ... after they each complete their settler, will Singaboy's go from 100 > 130 while Oledavy's Japper007's go from 110 > 140?). Hopefully the check to update settler cost only occurs after a settler completes and is tied to the total number of completed settlers, not an increment added to the cost of the previous settler.

[Dreylin]

Wasn't sure about asking this in Singaboy's thread:

He's just bought the bare hill in the North to access the 3rd-Ring Rainforest Hill tile north of the mountains for district placement; could he instead have bought the Rainforest Hill tile even further North (2nd Ring from Kiel) and then either switched it back to Aachen to buy the target tile or bought the target tile with Kiel and then traded it back for District placement? I don't think I've ever tried to swap past an unclaimed tile, so no idea myself if it would work, but it would have given him the 2/2 tile for Kiel/Aachen instead of the 1/2. (Assuming of course that he doesn't also have one Builder charge aimed to Mine that hill)

[suboptimal]

Wasn't sure about asking this in Singaboy's thread:

He's just bought the bare hill in the North to access the 3rd-Ring Rainforest Hill tile north of the mountains for district placement; could he instead have bought the Rainforest Hill tile even further North (2nd Ring from Kiel) and then either switched it back to Aachen to buy the target tile or bought the target tile with Kiel and then traded it back for District placement? I don't think I've ever tried to swap past an unclaimed tile, so no idea myself if it would work, but it would have given him the 2/2 tile for Kiel/Aachen instead of the 1/2. (Assuming of course that he doesn't also have one Builder charge aimed to Mine that hill)

I just tried to do this using a medieval start (to get two cities founded quickly).  They were four hexes apart, had no adjacent territory and both cities had 2nd ring tiles in the 3rd ring of the other city (which would be the case here if Kiel bought the tile as you suggest).  There was no option to swap the tile between cities.   It looks like the path from the city center to the tile in question needs to be contiguous in order for it to be swappable.

[Dreylin]

Wasn't sure about asking this in Singaboy's thread:

He's just bought the bare hill in the North to access the 3rd-Ring Rainforest Hill tile north of the mountains for district placement; could he instead have bought the Rainforest Hill tile even further North (2nd Ring from Kiel) and then either switched it back to Aachen to buy the target tile or bought the target tile with Kiel and then traded it back for District placement? I don't think I've ever tried to swap past an unclaimed tile, so no idea myself if it would work, but it would have given him the 2/2 tile for Kiel/Aachen instead of the 1/2. (Assuming of course that he doesn't also have one Builder charge aimed to Mine that hill)

I just tried to do this using a medieval start (to get two cities founded quickly).  They were four hexes apart, had no adjacent territory and both cities had 2nd ring tiles in the 3rd ring of the other city (which would be the case here if Kiel bought the tile as you suggest).  There was no option to swap the tile between cities.   It looks like the path from the city center to the tile in question needs to be contiguous in order for it to be swappable.

Interesting. I wonder whether it's something they did intentionally, or not ... given the general level of intent though, I'd have to go with not.

[Alhambram]

Singaboy is performing a nice early snowball, with this he shall ride leadership spot for a while unless something drastic happens with him or others.
Singaboy's only issue is lack of barbs (which is a ironic karmic twist compared with his PBEM 2 barb luck), as result he is forced to full research archery and bronze working.

[Ituralde]

Interesting how the early encampment approach gets replaced with early campuses.

Is this Hypatias doing, the water leading to isolated starts? A mix of both?

[Cornflakes]

I just tried to do this using a medieval start (to get two cities founded quickly).  They were four hexes apart, had no adjacent territory and both cities had 2nd ring tiles in the 3rd ring of the other city (which would be the case here if Kiel bought the tile as you suggest).  There was no option to swap the tile between cities.   It looks like the path from the city center to the tile in question needs to be contiguous in order for it to be swappable.

Interesting. I wonder whether it's something they did intentionally, or not ... given the general level of intent though, I'd have to go with not.

I think Suboptimal is correct that the tiles have to be owned in a continuous path ... in the case of Singaboy's cities 4 tiles apart, the issue here is it would require swapping a 1st ring tile from Kiel which is not allowed.

[Ituralde]

So there's three people gunning for religion and not one of them is attempting to do it via Stonehenge.

Seems like Oledavys fears in that regard are unfounded. I wonder whether CFCJesterFool should have gone for Stonehenge in his third city. There was enough stone there.
Can you harvest the stone adjacent to Stonehenge into the wonder itself? Two Stone Harvests should give you enough hammers, I think.

Edit: Also what's up with district costs?
Oledavys first Campus costs him 57 cogs.
Singaboys first Campus costs him 107 cogs.

[Quagma Blast]

Edit: Also what's up with district costs?
Oledavys first Campus costs him 57 cogs.
Singaboys first Campus costs him 107 cogs.

District cost scales up with the number of techs and civics completed; Singaboy could be ahead on that count. Also, if you have fewer instances of some particular district than the other players, you get a discount on that district type, as something of a catch-up mechanic.