New Civ4 Pitboss (38?)

[OT4E]

How is it going with the map?
I guess we are waiting for mack to get to the final round of picks?

[RefSteel]

You infer correctly:  The only player still deciding on second-round picks is mackoti.

On the map, thanks to Cornflakes, we're a lot closer than we were even just a few days ago, and as a result I think we're still on track for Mardoc's estimate from a week and a half ago: The whole thing should hopefully be ready by the second weekend in February, though his caveat does still apply:

if everything goes smoothly (and when has a map ever been ready ahead of schedule)?

[mackoti]

You infer correctly:  The only player still deciding on second-round picks is mackoti.

On the map, thanks to Cornflakes, we're a lot closer than we were even just a few days ago, and as a result I think we're still on track for Mardoc's estimate from a week and a half ago:  The whole thing should hopefully be ready by the second weekend in February, though his caveat does still apply:

if everything goes smoothly (and when has a map ever been ready ahead of schedule)?

ok i decided.

[RefSteel]

Okay, third round picks posted in the relevant spoiler threads. Only AdrienIer and Shallow Old Human Tourist have an actual decision to make before we can post the overall results in this thread.

[AdrienIer]

Done

[OT4E]

Hey Ref! May be you can put final leader/nation list under spoiler with the mark "Not for Old Harry and his team"?

I dont want to make him hurry or smth, but we could discuss what others have got in our threads while we are waiting for map anyway.

[pindicator]

Oh yeah, that's at least 4 day's worth of distracted discussion time

[RefSteel]

All the picks are in! The final lineup:

1) dtay - Genghis Khan (Agg/Imp) of Celtia
2) superdeath - Churchill (Cha/Pro) of the Native Americans
3) Mr. Cairo - Saladin (Pro/Spi) of Russia
4) B4ndit - Zara Yaqob (Cre/Org) of Sumeria
5) Rusten - Cyrus (Cha/Imp) of Arabia
6) Donovan Zoi - Pacal (Exp/Fin) of Maya
7) Gavagai - Mehmed (Exp/Org) of Egypt
8) Shallow Old Human Tourist - Augustus (Imp/Ind) of Persia
9) GermanJoey - Charlemagne (Imp/Pro) of Mongolia
10) Dreylin - Roosevelt (Ind/Org) of the Vikings
11) OT4E and Chumchu - Qin Shi Huang (Ind/Pro) of Carthage
12) Dark Savant - Joao (Exp/Imp) of Byzantium
13) 2metraninja - Napoleon (Cha/Org) of the Aztecs
14) Mackoti - Suleiman (Imp/Phi) of France
15) The Black Sword - Pericles (Cre/Phi) of Zulu
16) AdrienIer - Mao (Exp/Pro) of Mali
17) Pindicator - Hammurabi (Agg/Org) of China
18) WilliamLP - Tokugawa (Agg/Pro) of Japan
19) Commodore - Kublai Khan (Cha/Cre) of Rome
20) naufrager - Julius Caesar (Imp/Org) of Germany
21) plako - Justinian (Imp/Spi) of Inca
22) elkad - Shaka (Agg/Exp) of Korea
23) spacetyrantxenu - Hatshepsut (Cre/Spi) of Greece
24) Boldly Going Nowhere - Boudica (Agg/Cha) of Khmer
25) Aretas - Ragnar (Agg/Fin) of Holy Rome

Please correct me if I somehow copy/pasted something wrong and have the wrong leader or civ for you here. I'll post the complete list of all the picks and rejections for each round when I have a chance to compile them all into a proper table.

[Fintourist]

no worries guys, we made the decision as well so the speculation can go to the next level 

EDIT: wow, Ref is fast

[RefSteel]

There's definitely a better way to format and post this, but here goes; hopefully I at least entered all the data right:

Player	1st Round	2nd Round	3rd Round
dtay	De Gaulle (Cha/Ind) Genghis Khan (Agg/Imp) Ottomans	Celts
superdeath	Churchill (Cha/Pro) Mao (Exp/Pro) Native Americans
Mr. Cairo	Saladin (Pro/Spi) Suryavarman (Cre/Exp) Mongolia	Russia
B4ndit	Zara Yaqob (Cre/Org) Julius Caesar (Imp/Org) Sumeria
Rusten	Cyrus (Cha/Imp) Darius (Fin/Org) Arabia
Donovan Zoi	Gandhi (Phi/Spi) Pacal (Exp/Fin) Maya
Gavagai	Mehmed (Exp/Org) Augustus (Imp/Ind) France	Egypt
FinHarry et al	Bismarck (Exp/Ind) Wang Kon (Fin/Pro) Persia	Hannibal (Cha/Fin) Lincoln (Cha/Phi)	Huayna Capac (Fin/Ind) Augustus (Imp/Ind)
GermanJoey	Isabella (Exp/Spi) Charlemagne (Imp/Pro) Spain	Mongolia
Dreylin	Roosevelt (Ind/Org) Huayna Capac (Fin/Ind) Vikings
OT4E + Chumchu	Gilgamesh (Cre/Pro) Qin Shi Huang (Ind/Pro) Germany	England	Carthage
Dark Savant	Joao (Exp/Imp) Peter (Exp/Phi) Byzantium
2metraninja	Napoleon (Cha/Org) Lincoln (Cha/Phi) Aztecs
mackoti	Willem (Cre/Fin) Elizabeth (Fin/Phi) America	Suleiman (Imp/Phi) Huayna Capac (Fin/Ind) France
The Black Sword	Victoria (Fin/Imp) Hannibal (Cha/Fin) Zulu	Washington (Cha/Exp) Pericles (Cre/Phi)
AdrienIer	Alexander (Agg/Phi) Montezuma (Agg/Spi) Russia	Gandhi (Phi/Spi) Brennus (Spi/Cha) Carthage	Asoka (Org/Spi) Mao (Exp/Pro) Mali
Pindicator	Hammurabi (Agg/Org) Suleiman (Imp/Phi) China
WilliamLP	Tokugawa (Agg/Pro) Louis (Cre/Ind) Japan
Commodore	Mansa Musa (Fin/Spi) Kublai Khan (Cha/Cre) Rome
naufrager	Stalin (Agg/Ind) Ramesses (Ind/Spi) Carthage	Mansa Musa (Fin/Spi) Julius Caesar (Imp/Org) Germany
plako	Brennus (Cha/Spi) Justinian (Imp/Spi) Inca
elkad	Shaka (Agg/Exp) Asoka (Org/Spi) Korea
spacetyrantxenu	Hatshepsut (Cre/Spi) Pericles (Cre/Phi) Greece
Boldly Going Nowhere	Boudica (Agg/Cha) Catherine (Cre/Imp) Khmer
Aretas	Ragnar (Agg/Fin) Washington (Cha/Exp) Holy Rome

I found some of the random results quite surprising, which I guess is in the nature of random results.  Stuff like:  Carthage turning up in every single round, whereas Mali lost the first two (larger!) lotteries but grabbed one of the last two spots, and several civs (including India!) and two leaders (Sitting Bull and Frederick) never got rolled in any round at all.  I was surprised by the number of leader pairs who shared a trait with one another too.  Also, a total of four leaders were rolled with a chance to be paired with their "normal" civ, and two of those were accepted, which is pretty neat.

So ... now we just have to get the map finished before you all get bored of talking about each other's picks and simming out your starts, I guess.  Working on it!