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The game is getting more and more annoying, a turn is 48 h becasue ote cant play in 20 h so joey goes and we have another turn in 20 hours or so.
In other news ai war peaced Rusten and i have a small border skirmish with naufragrar.I didnt declared on him i just got units on border so he doens t plant upon me. I am realy courious how he takes that.I could have killed both his chariot and spear last turn becasue of fortification spear was deffending before chariot and even had bad roll i had enough units,but i dont wanna war just him to see that my land.
Rusten has fallen behhind after our skirmish and looks like tbs is going for explosive growth.I am courious how is doing with gnp.
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Just for lurkers to know since the game started i roled the game twice and is turn 96 and i already had wars with 2 neighbours and i was in second part of the turn.I dont see why cairo expected me to play before him as i was in second half in my war with aretas and he and naufragar both moved before me and had chariots scouting my borders.I think was my bad i should killed that chariot with a HA and establish a turn order so he doesnt coment anymore.
Anyway hi pissed me realy hard so he is next on my to do list if this game rely continues we played 2 turns in a week.I had more time this week and there no turns i will be busy startting next week and no much time.
I will stay away from the tech thread from now.I wanted to write some thoughs on how i plan to win the game but is pointless as i realy belive game will die.
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Turn 100 sumary:
I am second in score, crop yeld, MFG , land area, third in power in city numbers.yeah there we have tBs with 17 cities if i counted right and right nera him is comming gavagai with 16 if my count is right and i think i matter of turns till b4dit is done.
I live in a very miliatrized area as 4/5 power are here.Rusten is first, someone second(gavagai i would gues becasue he conqueres someone), me third, 4th is my dear neigbour naufrgar(which i manged to scare to not setle near aretas land,i woul not start a war over that but i show some units and he dint apeae with setlers there which i was realy afraid not because i lose a city spot but becasue i city would had forked 6 of my cities so i need to take that) and the 5th is superdeath wich is at war with rusten(he is sendinding me all kind of messages to atack rusten but will not happen as i realy like that Rusten is busy and more than that ,rusten is taking land from a weak neaighbour of TBs who is the clear leader on food and population.
About Tbs he planted loads of cities and i think he got curency sevral turns ago , and those cities planted need to grow a bit before a GA so planted 2-3 ago 7-8 turns to grow so I expect to see TBs launching a GA in 8-10 turns from now(this is prety standar tbs playing).Unfortunately i cant say exactly what is power research but i expect to be like mine near 200 beakers turns, Gs will be not a problem so in 16 turns from now he might get ASTRO if he decides ti go there(i consider doing same just i will get GA alitle later as i am behind with population, how does he hve that much pop does he have more beter resources?)
From my part as i said i was considering same development but i decide getting guilds and banking first is more importand and ending GA in HR,vasalge, CS ,OR and yeha i will use rusten religion.using a free artist in my borders cities will be stron and a merchant in cities which dont produce great persons as well.
What is the situation now? I just got literature and will finidh HE EOT 101 and GLib at EOT 103 after I am considering music for GA and gettin a person for GA or combat great person, lets hope ruste sees that maximum what he can get from me is his city back and he pushes on SD.
oH an BGN is realy anoing with some super axes on my borders he got a barb city so now I am rushing 2 setlers towards ther so he doesnt get land from there.Man this game is complicated.
I feel as I am second in every metrics so i think leader is tbs but i still have room for 6-7 peacefull cities so i think i will catch up in city count.
My other neighbout Cairo had a good start but seem he has some problems as he shows just 6-7 gold turn and he didnget a tech for 15 turns if not more.
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I am gonna talk a litle bit about wonders. I will get Glib caus i dont think anyone else has literarature, and i think glib just became the second worth wonder on this era afer heavy nerf on MOM.
with the nerf, wonder costs 450 hammers and is way more expensive then the Mids so till now you had 2 wonders wich were great Mids and MoM but now one is gone, while I understand perhaps some people considered too strong(i would had picked mids instead of MoM in 9/10 cases) i think the nerf is too strong no multiplier to build it and you can have it just to nationalism.Is still an ok wonder but is for the IND leaders as they can get forges up an the 50% makes still an investment which can have a good return. So my sugestion for krill would be to let the multiplier in so we still can have 3 wonders worth.
With MoM beeing so expansive i think IND gains again power as there is a wonder which is hard to build otherwise counting in the forges and the posibility to grab one of stonehenge or oracle easy and national wonders not being very cheap or factoring maoi as well makes iND a strong trait(well is know i always considered ind strong even before all this changes).
I can bet the MoM will be build by a Ind leader as you must be crazy to invest that mch hammer in a wonder, personaly i think without ind and forge will not pay back only if you delay natioanlism alot and you cand find in a very hard spot beacause of that.
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so Gavgai is restles and atavk on plako but look there is a dogpile as this turn commodore gets a city from plako.ut wait gavagai logs after plako so there must be a peace proposiztion so commodore will take the brunt..., ha ha ha(this is what i wish).
On dometic development i decided for safety purposes as i i have a very extended empire(i actualy atacked the far neighbour not the close one) to go feudalism longbows as well i try to get an enginer at low odds so i can evene bulb machinery or make stategy to get taj, an extra Ga is awesome. I think Tbs got constructio and in short time there will pe o dogpile on superdeath.I realy hope he wuill be realy late and my neighbour gets most of the land(i must be crazy dont I).This game is too fun to lurk right now.
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Any updates for us lurkers?
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"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. ![[Image: noidea.gif]](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/noidea.gif) In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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Very hard with updates. I have a ot to do and my wifes mother died after a long illness , so i was forced to play turns between taking care of her, so I dont know if decsion i take were the best.For example i have astro for like 6-7 turns i think and my first city on anew continent will be next turn although is avery good city(i will setle directly on gold becasue WW is already niting me).I supose everyone knows I am at war with rusten.Atacking him was because well he has a huge shrine(I captured it and as expected 59 cities are hindu) and I knew he ahs that wonde for experince near me , i captured that as well and there were 2GG as well(oh yeah).
But there are serious problems rusten is an Ga and is producing units like there is no tomorow and he ahs huge culture so I had a reserve force in case naufrgrar(again who is htis guy?) has funny Ideeas , and becasue i realy need that forces to finish Rusten faster i declared war on him this turn and ofered peace if he accepts full steam on rusten if not i need caution. Luckily i have engineering and my knigs and even cats lbwos are mocving very fast.
On tech fron as i said i have astro from some time(I think i got it after TBS) ,engineering got the GA so I can eventualy bomb a front with naufrgrar or tbs depends were is needed. I have 2 options right now and depends the GP i get in 2 turns if its a GS i go gunpowder and wil bulb like 2300 from chemistry and will get frigate at least 20 turns before other so i can build few and make them sweat .I have 3 cities which have can build 1 frigate evry2 turns so can get ome of them and after i consider going directly for Steel , till then cities from rustn out of revolt and can get 3 promo canons and some drydoks for navy.
Second option is to get a GE then most likely i will GO CS-Philo-Nationalis and rush taj, research GPowder and teo and revolt into nationhood , theo and get some fun musketeer(i have many cities above size 7-8 with 8-9 happines to spare so drafting 40-50 muketeers is very doable).
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thanks for the update! Sorry about the wife's mother situation. :/ Any possibility for some screenshots of the front or of your civ?
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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