[Spoilers] Elkad mostly empty thread - now less empty

[Elkad]

T99.
Following the plan.
No declaration for a G3 invasion.

I cancelled the fish fish with TBW and reoffered it.
Let's see what he does.

[Elkad]

T100.
TBW responded in kind to my Fish<>Fish deal.
So hopefully he is aiming his Praets elsewhere.
I'll still reinforce FootFall, but I'll back off after a few turns.

I see culture on the horizon.  Superdeath I think.



OH kicks off a GA, and immediately goes Monarchy/OR/Caste, adopting Confuzedism.

Which means he's Feud/Machinery/Guilds away from Knights most likely.  One of which he will probably bulb in this GA.

Picturedump.

Map.







Infoscreens.






























My cities.

[Elkad]

T101
I started building my first cottage!
Met Superdeath officially.  No resource route.
Mote will build wealth next turn to finish MC at 100%.
Mote and LH will build forges immediately.
LH will steal the rice tile from Mote, who may never get it back.  Which means Mote needs a lighthouse so it can work coast at least.
Oath is actually in a position for a massive whip of a Forge.  It grows so fast I could put 4 or 5 pop into in and grow back at 1pop/turn.
Which means after I 3-whip the settler in 2t (overflowing 18), it may grow into heavy unhappiness and whip the forge, with the overflow completing (or nearly) Maoi.


I didn't have graphs on TBW last turn, so here they are again.
OH is getting scary big.  Oh sure, he's in a GA, but 8t from now I expect his numbers will match where he is right now at the beginning of it.
And there is a good chance he'll either drop a shrine or roll right into a second GA.









More importantly on the short term.  No power spike from TBW.



I'm considering alpha next.  I've got 11 improvable trade routes right now, plus the ones from OH I'd like to cut off.
I'd like his southern land as well, but that's not going to happen, unless he gets in a huge war with.. well, I have no idea who actually...

And what is it with people not exploring?  Borsche knows 2metra, but other than that, nobody has met anybody.
Is there a horde of barb galleys I don't know about eliminating workboats?

2 people have found me via walking (OH and TBW - and TBW had to look over the water). I have yet to see an exploring workboat from anyone else.

[Elkad]

T102
Borsche researched Alpha and offered me OB.

I took it. He's got a galley coming my way, so time to see if the bad blood from burning a city of his means there are a couple HAs on it or something.
He hasn't met Superdeath to his east, so unless he's met someone south, I'm his overseas trade routes, so I'm hoping he'll just take the trade routes.

WB that was designated for exploring to the south pops on 103 from Gripping Hand, it'll go cruise his coast instead.

Looks like I'll have to declare to get anywhere in Super's land.



And met Pindicator to the west. He's met OH, but not TBW.



Offered Pind my silver for his stone. It'll actually cause me 2 angry faces if he takes it, but I'll deal with that to get Maoi up (and I'll have an Ivory online in 3t, with gems 2t behind that). Likely spread a bunch of Walls around as well. 17 shields is a hell of a bargain.
Got resource routes with Super. He has Furs and no Ivory, so my deal with OH could go away.

[Miguelito]

Thanks for keeping your thread empty !
What are your research targets for the foreseeable future?

[Elkad]

That is the big question.
Can I grab alpha, construction, lit, and CoL, or do I need to burn straight for Feud since OH is my neighbor and pulling away.

C2 Knights go 78% vs CG3 archers behind walls. 63% vs C2 spears behind walls.
Chichen Itza and spears drops him to 33%, (archers still don't work) but I still need a way to keep him from walking trebs up.
Vs LBs, it's 9%, or 24% if he trebs the walls down.

Historically I die to Knights. Every game. So that's my big sticking point.

[Elkad]

T103.
pindi took the stone deal.

MC completed EoT 102
I've got 6? walls completing EoT 103 (all from overflow or base production)
Should give me a noticeable power spike, not that it means anything.

More importantly, It'll shave several turns of Maoi (now down to 8t I think), bringing Oath fully online sooner. I'd completely missed the +4 naval XP until a couple turns ago, that'll be nice.
Making cash on Priesthood.

[Elkad]

T104
Krill met me. I have no idea where.
He knows TBW, and nobody else I know, so likely to my south.
Possibly he saw my galley to TBWs west(south? of pindi) and either ducked his boat east behind the island I've already looked at, or moved a unit inland again out of view.
I offered him a fish<>fish, with "stop trading with TBW" attached, hopefully he'll get the idea I'm not fond of TBW.
He has Ivory and Silver on me. Ivory connects T106 (my 2nd one, first is traded to OH for furs), and I get my Silver back in 9t when I cancel the stone. As mentioned upthread, hoping to move that fur<>ivory trade to superdeath soon. Gem fort comes online T108.



He's up silver and ivory on me, because my silver is traded away for stone, and my 2 ivorys have workers standing on them right now. I'm up Wheat on him.
He's got a rather large stack of gold, likely getting ready to make a run on some tech.

Borsche continues to dump EPs into me (4/t). 100 vs 64 now. Annoying.
He knows Superdeath now, he needs to switch. I'll allow a couple turns of forgetting over the holidays, after that it's malice.
Relations.



My superdeath workboat continues to violate his borders heading south. Being careful to not end turn on his seafood tiles.

TBW and the Footfall conflict. I want the hill tile. I'll get it soon, which will give me visibility on his logical sea lane.
I'd like to take his iron tile, but it's first ring for him. It'd be possible with extreme effort (early CoL, anarchy revolt, stealing food from Lucifer, 4 artists) in about 35t. Odds of him not having another Iron online by then seem slim. I'd have better luck going for Music and bombing it. Or parking 4 axes on it forever.

Odd question. If an enemy is in a fort in your territory, CR promotions don't work, correct? Because they don't get the "city" bonus.

City settled this turn cost me nothing. But I'm down to about 35% science for breakeven. Routes to Borsche should unlock next turn and help that a bunch.




Mote just deals with the unhappiness for 2t. Ivory, Gems, Forge Gems, and the return of my silver+forge means it has 5 happy coming online in the next 10t.
Fallen starts the settler this turn and will whip at some point (3-4 pop). Backfills Inferno spot, as my galleys have all wandered off. I'll save further antagonizing TBW by settling the Incense tile S of Footfall for 10 turns from now.



As you can see, I changed to Poly mid-turn. I'm going for Lit. I want HE online. If that means I have to stuff 2 archers for every Knight into my border with OH, while Oath pours out C2 Triremes to keep him from jumping past, sobeit.

[Elkad]

Path is poly, lit, then run for longbows.
My next GP is 25ish turns out (says 23, i'll lose a couple with the settler whip, and get them back with a Market), which should be about right to revolt to Monarchy and Serf, and stare at Feudalism ingame for 3 hours while blocking Commodore from playing before ultimately staying in Slavery because if I don't someone will make me revolt right back.

Probably won't have NE up in Reflex by then. Oh well, it'll have to make more GPs the old-fashioned way, running 6 whatevers at sz9.

[Elkad]

T105.
Met a Rusten WB south of Superdeath.
Krill met Borsche, more evidence he's likely to my south, not west.

Someone is getting abused on trade routes. -78!
I'm #15 at -5, so it's just the one guy.
I can see a Borsche city now, so I should get traderoutes with him at the turn flip.
Borsche flipped his EPs to superdeath, so that race is over. I still have graphs, good enough for now. Moved my points back to superdeath as well.

TBW still my only option for Marble (for HE/NE)
Galley w/tracker headed to the land to my due south. Maybe there is marble there.
9t to lit. Not good.