Codenames 25 Lurker Thread

[pindicator]

Trunk as in torso? That's a clever clue, wish I would have caught that earlier

[suboptimal]

I've been lurking along at home for this but since I'm still newbie-ish at this I figured I'd ask here. Given that the blue team was given the clue Kevlar 3 and has made 4 (successful) guesses doesn't that mean that red is up?

[pindicator]

Yes, that is correct. If a spymaster wants to give unlimited clues they need to give 0 or unlimited as the number. Otherwise the team only gets the number plus 1 guesses

[suboptimal]

In case the players peruse the lurker thread after the game...

Lemon oil is produced by mechanically piercing/shredding and pressing the peel of the fruit. It's used in pretty much anything that's lemon flavored or lemon-scented and fractions of the oil are used in cleaning products (such as Pledge branded furniture cleaners). It can also be produced by macerating whole fruit and then performing a steam distillation. This results in an oil that looks & smells a bit differently than the expressed material. Oils of most citrus fruit are produced in this manner for the flavor & fragrance industry, with orange oils & their products also seeing wide industrial use as such as cleaners (Orange Glo) and paint strippers (Citristrip). You can "sample" lemon oil (indeed, any citrus oil) yourself by abrading the peel with a fingernail or taking a section of peel and twisting it to break the oil sacs.

[Wyatan]

No boardgamer in red team ?
SPYFALL is definitely a thing...

[El Grillo]

I think SD's intent here was to give a 1-clue that unambiguously pointed to MOLE, which wasn't previously a candidate, and then made the clue unlimited to give them the 2 additional guesses needed to close the game. I think the red team is on the right track here, but as always it can be a tricky thing. Losing tempo from the SNOW-"Man" turn hurt them a lot.

[T-hawk]

Spyfall is a thing, but you wouldn't need to clue Fall with an oblique reference like that. Plummet would do fine as a clue.

[El Grillo]

Another argument against HOLE here is that if SD wasn't considering the compound word link to SNOW-Man, it wouldn't make sense for him to have been aiming at Man-HOLE instead.

[Wyatan]

Spyfall is a thing, but you wouldn't need to clue Fall with an oblique reference like that.  Plummet would do fine as a clue.

Well, good thing no one saw that association anyway, since it wasn't intended.

But it would have been a good clue for linking MOLE and FALL while avoiding HOLE, I believe.
Even something like PRECIPITATE (hinting at the chemistry meaning of MOLE) would have been far more likely to steer the team towards HOLE than MOLE I think.

[El Grillo]

KETCHUP	PARK	GLASS	CLIFF	MICROSCOPE
PART	CROSS	DRAFT	MOUSE	HOTEL
KING	RING	PASS	WASHER	MINE
MASS	TIME	TABLE	ATLANTIS	PENGUIN
CHINA	KNIGHT	GIANT	MUG	PLATYPUS

Coal 4

My thoughts:

- A Coal MINE has to be the first candidate, though a WASHER used in the post-extraction density separation process might be too obscure.
- CHINA is known to use Coal power heavily, and is also the world's leading producer by a wide margin.
- KING Coal was the name of Sinclair's critique/novel on the American coal mining industry, and might be well known enough to serve as a clue.
- There is some ongoing controversy about Coal mining in state and national PARKs.
- Today's Coal was formed several hundred million years ago, when ATLANTIS could've existed.

I'd feel pretty good pointing to MINE and CHINA, less so to KING but would feel better if anyone else knew the reference, and then less than confident about the others.