Codenames 25

[Bobchillingworth]

Yeah.. i had wanted to go for POKEMON 6-7 or so, but i didnt know if anyone else was an avid pokemon fan... leaving me to just say Billy 1 for piano.

Pokemon (7) would have been fun, since all of our words save Piano fit to various degrees, but I'd have assuredly steered us into some combination of Rose, Snow, Saturn, and Pin along the way, so keeping it limited to the most obvious three was the best play.

[pindicator]

Round 2 Board

KETCHUP	PARK	GLASS	CLIFF	MICROSCOPE
PART	CROSS	DRAFT	MOUSE	HOTEL
KING	RING	PASS	WASHER	MINE
MASS	TIME	TABLE	ATLANTIS	PENGUIN
CHINA	KNIGHT	GIANT	MUG	PLATYPUS

Keys being sent to the spymasters shortly....

[DaveV]

Since I have nine words, I assume we're first.

Coal 4

[Old Harry]

Obviously a coal MINE
Old KING coal was a jolly old soul

After those I'm a bit lost...

Would you mine coal from a CLIFF?
I feel like DRAFT might be related to a coal fire somehow
It takes a long TIME for coal to form
Underground you get a water TABLE, is there a coal TABLE?
CHINA is famously building lots of coal-fired power plants

[Bobchillingworth]

I favor Mine, King, Cliff, and China, in that order.

[JR4]

Honestly don't see how to link square to anything, but Kevlar and cheap could have been 4 clues leaving you to say shape 1...

I agree that Cheap could have been a 4 word clue as NOVEL, LEMON, PIN and CHOCOLATE are pretty similar and there aren`t really many dangerous words around. I thought that cluing Kevlar for 4 words would be way too dangerous as HOLE was the assassin and it was very likely going to be considered an option by the team. Maybe I`d have gone for 4 if there had been a different black word.

Any suggestions as of how to clue the blue words in three turns?

Three turns is difficult, but here's how I'd attack it:

Medevac 3 (for HELICOPTER, ORGAN, and PARACHUTE)
Entenmann 3 (for CHOCOLATE, LEMON, and SQUARE)
Lockpick 3 (for PIN, TRUNK, and NOVEL, though that's a damn stretch).

Um, I don`t know those words. Surely, Medevac has something to do with medic aid but the others must be pretty obscure.

Yeah, I'm in no hurry to try spymastering   .

Cheapest rather than cheap? Although that would risked driving me, at least, to look for adjectives rather than nouns.

And I'm still not getting the SQUARE-Grocer link.

Just glad that I wasn't completely wrong about Kevlar being used in parachutes.

Don`t worry, it`s a lot of fun being a spymaster. Things can always go terribly wrong but that`s just part of the game.
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I thought that Grocer might point to the fact that you find those in cities (and perhaps in the city center). It`s not obvious by any means, though.

Hah, well done red team. Maybe I should have some more confidence in my guessing, since I was much more on the right track then I originally thought. Sorry JR4. Maybe instead of grocer unlimited you could aimed directly for CHOCOLATE/SQUARE with something like Cadbury 2? Lemon was our +1 guess for Cheap at the time and I would've pushed for that, leaving the Heli/Parachute pair for the last clue. EDIT: Thinking back there was no guarantee that you would get the 4th turn, so this probably wouldn't be practical without hindsight.

Yes, you were right about those clues several times, well done. Maybe I should have concentrated on SQUARE in the first clue, just to get rid of it asap. Cadbury is one option. It`s a tricky word to clue. Out of principle I`ll always try to clear the board in three turns when going first as the other spymaster only has to get 8 correct words and four rounds leaves too much to chance.

Any suggestions as of how to clue the blue words in three turns?

Maybe:
CLANCY 3 (NOVEL, HELICOPTER, PARACHUTE)
STOMACH 4 (ORGAN, CHOCOLATE, LEMON, TRUNK)
NUMBER 2 (PIN, SQUARE)
?

And yeah, the lurker thread is safe (IMO).

This is a good way of clearing the board quickly. Stomach 4 would likely have gotten all four words imo. I actually thought about cluing something like Stalingrad or Siege unlimited instead of Grocer but that would likely run into HOLE which was the assassin.

[Aurorarcher]

Mine is obvious. I also like CHINA (probably #1 coal producer in the world) and CLIFF. But what is the 4th? I don't see anything that clicks for me so hopefully someone else does. So I'd go MINE -> CHINA -> CLIFF 

[superdeath]

MINE is obvious. CHINA feels like its less obvious, but works about the same. PARK i like because industrial park uses coal... right? I kinda like RING because coal is mostly carbon, and a diamond RING is quite common. ( diamonds being basically compressed coal )

After reading other spoilers:
Old king Coal? never heard of it.

I wouldnt consider Cliff a coal clue, as it would be pretty hard to MINE the side of a cliff.

Looking back... im liking MINE>CHINA>PARK>KING? imo. RING probably could have been better slapped in there by just saying Diamond-4..

[Bobchillingworth]

Okay, we're close to unanimous on the following:

Point to Mine
Point to China
Point to King



I see the Park connection, but prefer Cliff as being more direct; I'm fairly certain mining cliffs for coal is a thing, and even if it isn't many of the mechanisms of mining coal will leave cliffs behind. Given that 3/4 of us prefer it, I suggest we point to it next, barring the unexpected.

[WarriorKnight]

MINE is red
CHINA is red
KING is grey

KETCHUP	PARK	GLASS	CLIFF	MICROSCOPE
PART	CROSS	DRAFT	MOUSE	HOTEL
KING	RING	PASS	WASHER	MINE
MASS	TIME	TABLE	ATLANTIS	PENGUIN
CHINA	KNIGHT	GIANT	MUG	PLATYPUS

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