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Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.
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(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Does resist magic work on stoning gaze or touch? 
Also does bless work against fire breath? 

I thought neither of them did.
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(May 26th, 2020, 07:49)MrBiscuits Wrote:
(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Does resist magic work on stoning gaze or touch? 
Also does bless work against fire breath? 

I thought neither of them did.

Yeah absolutely works against both gaze and touch.  I am playing a game now playing against cockatrices and gorgons, so I tested against both gaze and touch.

I am not sure about breath it is a little harder to directly verify, but I'll let others confirm that.
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(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Not quite sure about Bless, actually. Because according to the help page, Flame Strike is fire damage, and then according to the wiki, fire damage counts as ranged magical attack... Or some such arrangement smile So if Flame Strike is ranged magical, then Bless shouldn't help. But Resist Elements/Elemental Armor should. If anybody from the experts could chime in... smile
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(May 26th, 2020, 11:59)ksasaki Wrote:
(May 26th, 2020, 07:49)MrBiscuits Wrote:
(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Does resist magic work on stoning gaze or touch? 
Also does bless work against fire breath? 

I thought neither of them did.

Yeah absolutely works against both gaze and touch.  I am playing a game now playing against cockatrices and gorgons, so I tested against both gaze and touch.

I am not sure about breath it is a little harder to directly verify, but I'll let others confirm that.

I think Bless works on breath, at least that's what the description says.
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(May 26th, 2020, 12:32)prokolyo Wrote:
(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Not quite sure about Bless, actually. Because according to the help page, Flame Strike is fire damage, and then according to the wiki, fire damage counts as ranged magical attack... Or some such arrangement smile So if Flame Strike is ranged magical, then Bless shouldn't help. But Resist Elements/Elemental Armor should. If anybody from the experts could chime in... smile

According to this wiki, Flame Strike is defensed by Bless, or are you using the other wiki:

https://masterofmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Flame_Strike

The following conditional effects also offer extra protection against Flame Strike: the protective Unit Enchantments [Image: latest?cb=20120103023503]Bless[Image: latest?cb=20120103022706]Resist Elements, and [Image: latest?cb=20120103022706]Elemental Armor; and the Unit Ability [Image: 23?cb=20120319223030] Large Shield.

I think all magic ranged attacks actually have an elemental type, in general priests / shamans nature and magicians chaos.

https://masterofmagic.fandom.com/wiki/Ra...cal_Attack

BTW, Seravy actually changed the properties of Flame Strike via his README:

6. Flame Strike

Cost : 60 MP

Research : 5500 RP

Perform a strength 32 Fire attack on all enemy units

This spell will no longer hit all figures separately, ensuring a powerful but more balanced effect that is neither overpowered against multifigure units nor useless against single figure ones.
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Bless works on Flame Strike. It's a chaos spell dealing damage so 5 defense against chaos is applicable.
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(May 26th, 2020, 14:02)ksasaki Wrote: I think all magic ranged attacks actually have an elemental type, in general priests / shamans nature and magicians chaos.


Unit magical ranged attacks no longer have any relevant Realm or Element association in CoM.


(May 26th, 2020, 12:32)prokolyo Wrote:
(May 26th, 2020, 03:47)ksasaki Wrote: Bless should as it adds five shields against all chaos and death spells and breath attacks.

Resist magic should not because it adds +5 to resistance rolls, I.e. confusion or black sleep or stoning attacks.

Not quite sure about Bless, actually. Because according to the help page, Flame Strike is fire damage, and then according to the wiki, fire damage counts as ranged magical attack... Or some such arrangement smile So if Flame Strike is ranged magical, then Bless shouldn't help. But Resist Elements/Elemental Armor should. If anybody from the experts could chime in... smile

Spells can be associated with a Realm, and an Element, on top of being of the magical ranged damage type. Fire Damage does NOT count as ranged magical, for example Fire Breath is NOT ranged magical.

The distinction between Realm and Element matters for effects that deal with either Realm or Element, but not both.

Flame Strike is both Fire Element and a spell of the Chaos Realm. Bless works against it because Bless protects against Chaos Realm spells--not the element.

Some effects deal with Element only--Inner Fire, for example. These do not care about the Realm associations.

There are situations where the Element is not associated with the Realm its normally found in. Death can deal Cold damage using Wave of Despair, but Bless works on it, even though the basic Cold spell Ice Bolt belongs to the Nature Realm. Nature has Call Lightning that deals non-Chaos Lightning Damage even though Lightning is usually Chaos Realm.

If I recall correctly, this also extends to units with elemental Breath attacks. Sky Drakes have Lightning Breath, but they're associated with Sorcery rather than Chaos, so Bless doesn't work on it. Similarly, Dragon Turtles' Lightning Breath and the Dragon racial Fire Breath don't have realm associations.
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Jesus... smile

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Now I am confused as well....can we have a caster of magic wiki since so many things have changed?
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