Mr. Cairo PB 53 [Spoilers]

[Mr. Cairo]

I would have done things so differently if I had known that. My whole thing was that with the IMP bonus buying cities wasn't worth it. But I could have bought Settlers instead!? I would have had picked a civ with Agriculture starting tech, bought 1 city, 0-1 pop, probably on the starting location, a worker, no new techs, and 4 settlers, and some random units.

To make matters worse, thanks to my attack on TBS, whatever advantage I had from my particular start is gone. I've whipped away those extra pop, and my other cities got a later start than everyone else's so they're less valuable.

Well, I'd certainly play another Advanced Start after this one, I'd hate all the lessons I'm learning to go to waste. Also, I would like more info ahead of time regarding the overall lushness of the map. Back when I started here, most of the maps were highly edited, and very lush. That sort of went out of favour a little bit, I think because of a desire to play games faster than map-makers could make maps for them. But if we do have map-makers willing to put the time and and create a map like this (thanks SD!), it would be good to know ahead of time.

Of course, now SD is going to link me to the post in the planning thread that says exactly that and I'll feel like a fool....

[superdeath]

lol. See, i was given NO restrictions regarding map other than pb49 tight settling, and " NO PREPLACED BARBS/BARB CITIES "

It was actually a bit more lush before other lurkers told me to tone it down.

But id gladly make another one of these now that i know people wont just settle their first city right on the starting tile where i was figuring people would settle...

[Mr. Cairo]

Things are really cramped now, I'm getting the feeling everyone settled towards me, even Scooter up north, since I had pretty much no opportunity to expand into the middle like TBS has done; by the time I had explored up there Scooter had already settled to cut me off.


Now, I will commence with the map bitching.

Look at my land:



Now look at Commodore's:



And TBS':



Is it just me, or do I have fewer land tiles around my starting location than both Commodore and TBS? I went into paint and drew boxes around what I would consider the "core", ie not including any of the connecting land, and not only is my box smaller, it also has more coast tiles. Can someone come and tell me if I'm wrong and why?

[GeneralKilCavalry]

You're also losing 4 tiles to peaks. But having less land is an issue with being sandwiched between two players - you don't have a safe corner you can expand into later like commodore. However, you seem to have the easiest access into the middle from your capital?

[Mr. Cairo]

You're also losing 4 tiles to peaks. But having less land is an issue with being sandwiched between two players - you don't have a safe corner you can expand into later like commodore. However, you seem to have the easiest access into the middle from your capital?

I didn't even consider the peaks, but you're right. It's not visible on these screenshots, but my little land-bridge to the middle is just as long as TBS's, and I don't think my starting location is actually any closer to the middle than his.

[Mr. Cairo]

TBS is playing with fire. If these cities remain undefended over the next few turns he wont get to keep them.

I know he wants to be friends with me, and I did exchange a fish/copper for fish/copper offer a while ago, and I don't want to be known as someone who reneges on those sort of things...

But this is just egregious. Defend your damn cities, this isn't real diplo. You've played a fantastic game so far, bouncing back from those early losses, don't throw it all away by being reckless.

I'm soon going to be founding a city on that island he's on, and he has no chance to take that city off of scooter, so I kinda expect him to re-garrison (yes, re-garrison, he had units in them before) those cities soon, but if he doesn't...

[superdeath]

How are things looking?

[Mr. Cairo]

It's late but here's some of that info people wanted:





Most of my cities are unhappy because TBS cancelled a trade deal we had, which makes me interested in joining in on Cornflakes' proposed attack, but not yet able to.

Honestly the more I see of other players land the less interested I am in playing this game. I'm getting kinda sick of being screwed over by the mapmaker.

[Mr. Cairo]

So apparently Cornflakes declared war on TBS and they signed peace in which Cornflakes got Thapsus. Which reset the culture. Which gave me those gems, so, thanks Cornflakes, although I would have preferred an actual war that I could have joined in on at some point.

[Charriu]

I'm collecting some balance data. Did you already research Mysticism? If yes, when?