[SPOILERS] vanrober learning from GKC far from home of each otherr

[GeneralKilCavalry]

I suppose there are some floodplains to our east there?

Anyhow, not a very lush start, classic RB stuff. This capital could have an easy 5 fin cottages early on, has a bunch of plains mines to work.

We don't want a fishing-first civ.

[vanrober]

I suppose there are some floodplains to our east there?

Anyhow, not a very lush start, classic RB stuff. This capital could have an easy 5 fin cottages early on, has a bunch of plains mines to work.

We don't want a fishing-first civ.

Mongols could still fit. Im not sure if we are supposed to settle in that spot or if we arent. I men supossed coz i believe we are not obligated.

So we should get into the what we should pick first for the snake pick. I guess we are going to try Cyrus of mongolia? what should we locked? Cyrus? not sure.

Also It seems to have sea/big lake in the south, but im not sure if i should just trust the squares we see clearly. I think i would go with scout E-NE to that mione (EDIT: Im not sure what happened in my brain, i meant hill) and see more about the floodplains ( I think we should not go for second city there if there is no a source of food, but might be nice for a 3-4 city spot.

[GeneralKilCavalry]

I suggest settling in place - the plains hill gives an extra hammer to our center city tile, which is very valuable for building the first worker.

[Cornflakes]

Also the wine provides an extra commerce to the city center tile if you settle in place.

[vanrober]

Also the wine provides an extra commerce to the city center tile if you settle in place.

Oh i actually didnt know that. I didnt start simming since i dont know what civ+lid i'll get, so its nice to know.

Reading some spoilers threads of many games generally the mapmaker aims for the player settle in place. So i guess that would be the normal thing too in this game.

[Charriu]

In general if the base tile + resource produces more yield of any of the three yields (food, hammer, commerce) you always get the higher yield.

Example settling on grassland food resources gives the city a 3 food tile.
A plains hill or a plain tile with a strategic resource like stone gives 2 hammers. A plains hill strategic resource would give 3 hammers.

[vanrober]

In general if the base tile + resource produces more yield of any of the three yields (food, hammer, commerce) you always get the higher yield.

Example settling on grassland food resources gives the city a 3 food tile.
A plains hill or a plain tile with a strategic resource like stone gives 2 hammers. A plains hill strategic resource would give 3 hammers.

Not sure if its posible, but if grassland + stone or grasshill + stone? also hammer? I guess it does not give food, does it?

[Charriu]

Grassland + stone is a 2/1/0 tile, the city tile is also a 2/1/0, so it will stay a 2/1/0 tile
Grassland hill + stone is a 1/2/0 tile, the city tile is a 2/1/0. In this case the highest yields will be taken and the city has a 2/2/0 tile.

[vanrober]

Grassland + stone is a 2/1/0 tile, the city tile is also a 2/1/0, so it will stay a 2/1/0 tile
Grassland hill + stone is a 1/2/0 tile, the city tile is a 2/1/0. In this case the highest yields will be taken and the city has a 2/2/0 tile.

Ohh i understand, so the city will be as the best food, best hammers and best commerce being the standard city 2/1/1 (not 2/1/0, no?) So if a square has more than 1 com will stay with more money, and same way if has more hammers or more food.

I didnt know that! Thanks so much!

[Charriu]

You are correct and yes the city tile actually is 2/1/1. This is actually one of the biggest reasons, if not the main reason, why we almost always start on a plains hill tile. Honestly I understand the reason why, but I always find it sad that we are most of the time just settling in place. I always liked this early choice of where to settle the capital.