[LURKERS] Why has nobody started this thread so far?

[Charriu]

Well it's time we lurkers get our own thread in this PB, right?

[Charriu]

So Commodore, why does scooters start not have a commerce resource on the starting hill like all other starts?

[Commodore]

Scooter's 2/2/2 and Cairo's crab are getting fixed; I'm making the map in 4.1.1.6 on this good machine since somebody broke CtH but I think the file will be fine.

[Charriu]

Sorry I still don't have any clue how what causes this on your main machine

[Charriu]

Oh one thing you could try is the PBmod they are playing in the civforum game. If that also breaks the UI we at least know a little bit more

[Commodore]

Okay, I'd really like some eyes on this one; it's a slightly butchered B&S with my goal being to give nobody an isolated start, 2/2/2 capital tiles, balanced early strategics of copper/iron/horse/ivory. A check for happy fairness would be much appreciated.

[AutomatedTeller]

I am not sure the food is balanced. In particular, Khmer looks screwed (only a pig on a hill)and America, ottoman and china look less good than others. edit: it looks between scooter's screenie and this, 2 of the FP got turned into desert hills.

Lux:
Ottoman/Egypt/Khmer/persia island

Ottomans have gems, gold and silk.
Khmer has gold and multiple whales.
Egypt does not have a lux on their mainland - there is a big island with silver near Egypt and fur near Khmer.
Persia has silk and extra dyes.
There are only 3 ivories on this island, so someone wont' get it - 2 of them are very near each other, so pretty easy for one civ to get 2.

Maya/greece/Sumeria/China island

Maya has 2 furs, maybe 1 silver
Greece will get 4(!) fur and 2, maybe 3 silver
china has dye
sumeria has 2 extra dye, but no other accessible luxuries other than ivory.
Island has like 8 ivories

Celts/America/Arabia

America has whales - gems are aways away,but they are most likely to get it
Celts have gems and silk
arabia has silver and incense

everyone has pretty easy access to ivory

[Commodore]

Thanks AT, that's exactly the stuff. Anyone have land-form notes? The tool calls it fairly even but never not worth second-guessing. Please check player techs?

[Hollybombay]

There is a crab between India and HRE that is on land. Khmer look like they will end up with a ton of land compared to India/HRE. Korea has a pretty easy expansion path straight into a neighbor conquest. Other than that it looks fine to me.

[AutomatedTeller]

England's copper is closer to Constantinople than London and there's no food for the other one by Constantinople, so that's going to screw over England, who also doesn't have a good source of horse (closest is in Mutal's 3rd ring)

Beyond that, strat resources look ok.

Some civs have a lot more rivers than others. Not sure what can be done about that.