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WW 46: Wolves Return to Realms Beyond

Sorry for disappearing last night, had dinner with friends then went to sleep. I've caught up but I'm going to reread the 15 pages before commenting : I'm the worst at vibe readings on a first read.
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Superdeath because not giving reasons for a vote is bad, but refusing to give reasons for a vote when asked for one is worse (#77).
Rowain looks good to me. Abrasive, asking annoying questions, forcing people to talk.
Scooter is doing a good village job of forcing absentees to talk, but that's also an easy way for a wolf to participate.

The day seems to be centered on how newbies (by which I mean new to the RB meta) act and whether it's just clumsiness or scumminess.
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(September 2nd, 2020, 04:01)thrawn Wrote: I can see this becoming a lot of fun in the later days, but was thinking it'd be more of a leisurely side game like Codenames, not a full time project... smile

Yeah, that is an RB feature. I knew I was signing up for it, but the time sink was always my least-favorite aspect of this. El Grillo deciding that me sitting out of the chat for two hours being suspicious rubbed me the wrong way - not from a town/wolf perspective, but from a "my sanity dictates it/life outside WW matters" perspective. These games only stay healthy if we allow people to have outside lives. Probably should have made that clearer, but so be it.

We've got another 29 hours or so, plenty of time to go down some rabbit holes.

Back to overnight events:
Pind - didn't say much after my last post. Still trying to understand what he was trying to do.

Superdeath, similar problem - it's hard to know what he's trying to do since he's not trying to explain it.

My first read of GKC and Naufr were "newbie nervousness", haven't seen a reason to change that. And I don't like lynching the new players Day 1. Wait for real information instead of floundering in the dark that is Day 1.

Adrien really hadn't said much, and I'm not sure if he's been too earnest about his time/early read issues or not.

These are more meta commentary:
Lewwyn - lots to say, but I'm struggling to understand the point of it; that sounds familiar. Gaspar says a lot, but I can follow where he's going much better.
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Moderator Announcements:

I have two separate things that need to be publicly called out right now.

Player Substitution: thrawn has confirmed to me privately that he is dropping out of this game. Since the game is less than 24 hours old, I do not want to do a mod-kill, and I already had someone tell me they are willing to sub in if necessary, I am going to make a substitution here instead of completely removing him from the game.

Thrawn has left the game, and Meiz has now taken his place.

Clarification on using actions: I have been asked some questions privately about night actions, that made me realize I did not lay down a consistent standard around how actions may be used. The parts of that standard that I can make public, I have added to the end of the intro post, so that everyone may see them.

I apologize for not having that laid out from the beginning, if you can forgive me for being a little rusty at running these. Please PM me if you have any additional questions.
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Just when I though I was out, I pulled myself back in  smoke Great to see all the familiar names and new faces onboard smile
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OMG a Meiz sighting eek .
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History:
Serdoa votes Serdoa
Adrien votes Lewwyn
Commodore votes Serdoa
ElGrillo vote naufr
pindi votes Rowain
naufr votes Pindi
Cyneheard votes scooter
GKC votes Commodore
Rowain votes Lewwyn
Gaspar votes Rowain
Lewwyn votes Serdoa
GKC switches from Commodore to Cyneheard
Scooter votes Cyneheard
Rowain switches from Lewwyn to naufr
GKC switches from Cyneheard to naufr
Serdoa switches from Serdoa to naufr
Lewwyn switches from Serdoa to naufr
Pindi switches from Rowain to GKC
Commodore switches from Serdoa to GKC
ElGrillo switches from naufr to Cyneheard
Charriu votes for GKC
Cyneheard switches from scooter to pindi
SD votes for Serdoa
Gaspar switches from Rowain to Cyneheard
SD switches from Serdoa to Rowain
Bob votes Scooter
SD switches from Rowain to GKC
Bob switches from scooter to Lewwyn
scooter switches from Cyneheard to thrawn
Pindi switches from GKC to scooter
Gaspar switches from Cyneheard to pindi
Lewwyn switches from naufr to El Grillo
El Grillo switches from Cyneheard to Commodore
CMF votes SD
Serdoa switches from naufr to SD
Rowain switches from naufr to Commodore
AdrienIer switches from Lewwyn to SD
thrawn votes SD

Tally:
SD (3): CMF,Serdoa,Adrien,thrawn
GKC (3): Commodore, Charriu, SD
Pindi (3): naufr, Cyneheard,Gaspar
Commodore (2): ElGrillo,Rowain
naufr (1): GKC
Lewwyn (1):  Bob
thrawn (1): scooter
scooter (1): pindi
El Grillo (1): Lewwyn

not voted (1): Meiz
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(September 2nd, 2020, 05:22)Cyneheard Wrote: Adrien really hadn't said much, and I'm not sure if he's been too earnest about his time/early read issues or not.

I'd never fake a time issue to gain anything in a WW game and I would be quite annoyed if someone did that. I did state in the organisation thread that I didn't have a lot of time. The next few days will be okay-ish but on monday it's going to be really tough for me to be super active like I used to be in previous RB WW games.

Welcome to the game Meiz
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(September 2nd, 2020, 06:29)AdrienIer Wrote:
(September 2nd, 2020, 05:22)Cyneheard Wrote: Adrien really hadn't said much, and I'm not sure if he's been too earnest about his time/early read issues or not.

I'd never fake a time issue to gain anything in a WW game and I would be quite annoyed if someone did that. I did state in the organisation thread that I didn't have a lot of time. The next few days will be okay-ish but on monday it's going to be really tough for me to be super active like I used to be in previous RB WW games.

Welcome to the game Meiz

Fair enough on the time issues. Early read issues, however, are open to questioning - if someone else can recall Adrien's past that would be great.

Welcome Meiz!
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