September 3rd, 2020, 08:50
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(September 3rd, 2020, 04:12)Rowain Wrote: Quote shortened to the interesting bit.
(September 2nd, 2020, 22:59)pindicator Wrote: But that is not what AdrienIer has done! Instead he has gone from easy low- content pick of superdeath to easy low-content pick of Bob. What first caught my attention is that both came in quick response to other people being put up. It was right after Rowain pushed Commodore and Comm was getting some attention that he voted superdeath. And now with Cyneheard getting attention he's suddenly on the Bob wagon despite it not being a dig for every crumb type of vote. But regardless of that or whether that has anything to do with anything, I don't like that he is buddying up to one low content person, taking him under his wing, and then jumping right over to another while saying we have to put in the effort to find tells. The actions don't match the words.
So do you thing both Commodore and Cyneheard are Adriens wolf-buddies?
Any way lets push Cyneheard ab bit again
Eh, maybe? Honestly it was something about the timing of AdrienIer's superdeath in relation to your earlier vote that caught my eye, as if the two of you were coordinating, trying to find a train. But that's just what caught my eye, one of those things that make you say "huh, that's interesting" but not really evidence. The fact I had two moments like that on AdrienIer made me read him closer. I think I'd only want to explore those after knowing AdrienIer's a wolf. Or vise versa.
I think it was a bit of a slip by him to talk about digging into day 1 posts while he has been doing the opposite. I think that means he really is digging into targets, but his targets are the miss-lynch kind.
And now you're on Lewwyn. I swear my thoughts on him have gone from scum to town to scummy again. I thought we would see some reasoning from him behind the Bob vote which was why I asked him his opinion - but I didn't get reasoning, I got an almost joke-vote reason.
@AdrienIer- sorry, I glossed over the bed part. But I still wanted to give emphasis to my suspicions.
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September 3rd, 2020, 08:53
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(September 3rd, 2020, 08:41)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:40)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:26)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:17)Lewwyn Wrote: So you believe that both Bob and Cyneheard are wolves? I don't buy that
Lewwyn
You don't buy that they are both wolves or you don't buy that I believe that? Both
Right well, I do believe that Bob and Cyne are the two scummiest players. And that's what I said. hahahahaha
Oh man it's just so Rowain. I missed you man.
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(September 3rd, 2020, 08:40)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:26)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:17)Lewwyn Wrote: So you believe that both Bob and Cyneheard are wolves? I don't buy that
Lewwyn You don't buy that they are both wolves or you don't buy that I believe that?
Lewwyn, for my understanding: What is meant with "you don't buy both are wolves"? Do you believe if one is wolf the other has to be too?
Rowain, what do you mean with you don't believe him? Does that mean you believe if one is wolf the other is cleared?
And for both: If you answer "Yes", why?
September 3rd, 2020, 09:01
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(September 3rd, 2020, 07:38)Commodore Wrote: 4. Adrien has actually not said much more to change my opinion. I might be able to re-read, but given school is about to start...no promises.
Thanks Commodore. I actually came to the same conclusion about Adrien. As Meitz pointed out back in #163 and as Commodore himself said:
(September 2nd, 2020, 13:55)Commodore Wrote: Adrien- Meiz notes he's being smooth. He is.
And yes that did trip me off, too. Later AdrienIer's votes were also brought up, by pindicator in #290. We also never got a larger overview like Meiz requested here: #295. And even Rowain hinted at AdrienIer being a wolf at #299 but I'm not sure how serious that was. He defended himself at #301 without really reacting to anything pindicator brought forth. Therefore I say AdrienIer for now until somebody convinces me otherwise.
September 3rd, 2020, 09:08
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(September 3rd, 2020, 08:53)Serdoa Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:40)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:26)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:17)Lewwyn Wrote: So you believe that both Bob and Cyneheard are wolves? I don't buy that
Lewwyn You don't buy that they are both wolves or you don't buy that I believe that?
Lewwyn, for my understanding: What is meant with "you don't buy both are wolves"? Do you believe if one is wolf the other has to be too?
Rowain, what do you mean with you don't believe him? Does that mean you believe if one is wolf the other is cleared?
And for both: If you answer "Yes", why?
Ok sure.
I do not believe that both have to be wolves. They COULD both be wolves. Neither might be wolves. I don't know anything with certainty beyond my own alignment. I think they are the scummiest and currently most likely to be wolves.
Bob I think has done a bad job if he is a villager. Overall his rants are baseless and non-constructive as I've pointed out. It's very possible if he got overwhelmed and just said fuck it which is a total Bob move. Scum Bob would know that that is a Bob move too though. I do think village Bob would put in a slight bit more effort though. Either way he is scummy.
Cyneheard is actually the one I suspect more. I've noted earlier in a post that I thought Cyneheard was sort of floating and blank through the first 24 hours. That post was back when I still suspected El Grillo. Everything I've said about Cyneheard after his SD vote still stands. I still read the vote as an opportunity vote and scummy in timing and tone. His later defense has not swayed me. I think his play has been an attempt to stay under the radar and not be in the limelight. Even his defense feels like its not trying to be too engaging. There's not a lot to ggrab onto, its slippery. Honestly, if Cyneheard hadn't voted for SD in the way that he did, his slinkiness would have gotten him through the day easy. At that time SD was a safe vote though I think. Bob was in the lead bandwagon, SD was in the second lead bandwagon. SD comes back with content-less defense, voting for SD is not the main bandwagon but it helps solidfy a mislynch possibility going into the end of the day and if SD comes up village you say "how was I to know"?
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September 3rd, 2020, 09:12
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(September 3rd, 2020, 08:53)Serdoa Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:40)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:26)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:17)Lewwyn Wrote: So you believe that both Bob and Cyneheard are wolves? I don't buy that
Lewwyn You don't buy that they are both wolves or you don't buy that I believe that?
Lewwyn, for my understanding: What is meant with "you don't buy both are wolves"? Do you believe if one is wolf the other has to be too?
Rowain, what do you mean with you don't believe him? Does that mean you believe if one is wolf the other is cleared?
And for both: If you answer "Yes", why?
I don't believe that both are wolves and I don't believe that Lewwyn believes it hence my vote for him.
If one of them is lynched today and turns out as wolf it does not mean the other is cleared till the end.
Simply put I don't like how both trains built up.
September 3rd, 2020, 09:16
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(September 3rd, 2020, 09:01)Charriu Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 07:38)Commodore Wrote: 4. Adrien has actually not said much more to change my opinion. I might be able to re-read, but given school is about to start...no promises.
Thanks Commodore. I actually came to the same conclusion about Adrien. As Meitz pointed out back in #163 and as Commodore himself said:
(September 2nd, 2020, 13:55)Commodore Wrote: Adrien- Meiz notes he's being smooth. He is.
And yes that did trip me off, too. Later AdrienIer's votes were also brought up, by pindicator in #290. We also never got a larger overview like Meiz requested here: #295. And even Rowain hinted at AdrienIer being a wolf at #299 but I'm not sure how serious that was. He defended himself at #301 without really reacting to anything pindicator brought forth. Therefore I say AdrienIer for now until somebody convinces me otherwise.
I like this post and I like Adrien as a candidate for scum as well. I don't think he's done anything above the radar and has mostly kept his head down. His Bob is interesting as well.
I also note that he joke voted for me first. Now some WIFOM says he did it to buddy me and put him on my radar as a friend. But it could also be nothing. Could be he just likes me!
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September 3rd, 2020, 09:22
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(September 3rd, 2020, 09:12)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:53)Serdoa Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:40)Lewwyn Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:26)Rowain Wrote: (September 3rd, 2020, 08:17)Lewwyn Wrote: So you believe that both Bob and Cyneheard are wolves? I don't buy that
Lewwyn You don't buy that they are both wolves or you don't buy that I believe that?
Lewwyn, for my understanding: What is meant with "you don't buy both are wolves"? Do you believe if one is wolf the other has to be too?
Rowain, what do you mean with you don't believe him? Does that mean you believe if one is wolf the other is cleared?
And for both: If you answer "Yes", why?
I don't believe that both are wolves and I don't believe that Lewwyn believes it hence my vote for him.
If one of them is lynched today and turns out as wolf it does not mean the other is cleared till the end.
Simply put I don't like how both trains built up.
How would you feel about an Adrien train?
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September 3rd, 2020, 09:25
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(September 3rd, 2020, 09:01)Charriu Wrote: He defended himself at #301 without really reacting to anything pindicator brought forth.
Huh ? I started D1 prodding Serdoa, and giving reads as I woke up the next morning. And Pindi accuses me of not doing reads and prods. As for the later parts I explained how I didn't have time for prodding yesterday evening. Now I'm free until deadline (well I should be preparing classes for tomorrow but I'll do that later) so I'll try to give some thoughts on some people. The points made against me seem mostly baseless, but I'll try to dissolve any idea of non-commitment from my part in the next 1.5h
September 3rd, 2020, 09:30
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History:
Tally:
Bobchillingworth (6): Commodore, scooter, El Grillo, AdrienIer, superdeath, GeneralKilCavalry
Cyneheard (5): Gaspar, Meiz, Serdoa, naufragar, Lewwyn
superdeath (2): Chevalier Mal Fet, Cyneheard
Lewwyn (2): Bobchillingworth, Rowain
AdrienIer (2): pindicator, Charriu
1 Hour, 30 minutes Remain.
I will post another Tally with 30 minutes to go, and today should be online to post the final tally and result right at deadline.
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