Before the night ends I want to share my breadcrumps about the remaining players. I will do it with my usual three list system, but first let me say one thing that remains true for almost everybody on this list and I don't want to repeat it for everybody. Adrien's behaviour and posts really didn't help the case against him. A lot of people including those that didn't vote for him in the end, had him on their list of suspects. As a short disclaimer you may notice that my explanations become shorter with every player, that's mainly because I totally underestimated the time I have to put into this and was running hard against the deadline. I do those summaries in the same order of players as presented in Bricks first post. With that out of the way let's get to the list:
Trust-list:
Serdoa: He voted for Adrien as the 6th player, which is a little bit suspicious. He started day 2 with an explanation of his late day 1 Adrien suspicions (
#422), which might have made him watch Adrien closer. He then returned to his favorite target nauf (
#447,
#451,
#471,
#533, ) . He corrected GKC later
#514 and defended Lewwyn, while also attacking nauf once again. Did I get that right Serdoa? He also defended his attacks on nauf against Rowain at
#521. One of his most interesting posts is
#532 in which he makes a very reasonable case of nauf being a wolf and in addition throwing some doubt on scooter. The next important post is his case against Rowain at
#557, which resulted in a longer exchange between those two. I noticed this behaviour from Rowain too, but hadn't given it much thought at the time, because I was to focused on Adrien. But now with day 2 result this becomes a lot more interesting. I will watch what Rowain will do today. Lastly he voted for Adrien as 6th player (
#643), deciding between scooter and Adrien and his argument against Adrien is the same that I would have brought up for day 2. All in all I put him into town. I find his arguments against nauf very believable. The thing that I count most going for Serdoa is that he voted 4th against Cyneheard. This was an important vote that could have contributed to lynching a wolf on day 1. So far I put him in town.
Chevalier: Not that much has changed here, but in a good way. Despite time-constrains he puts a lot of effort in like with great summaries like (
#498). He speaks clearly. I can follow him and I do agree with him on some players. He made a huge effort to defend scooter at (
#550). Now I'm not totally in the 'scooter is town' group, but I do have bigger trust-issues with Lewwyn. More importantly, Chevalier provides good arguments and a reasonable defense there. I do hope he comes back to his promise from (
#599). All in all he's the player of whom I have the strongest town feel, because of his calm, well-spoken and logical conclusions.
meiz: He did vote for Adrien on day 2, but then again he also was instrumental in getting the train on Cyneheard rolling. He directed some questions towards me without being accusatory. Now those were absolutely justified and I appreciate if other fact-check me. He made some accusations towards pindicator on both days and in light of the Adrien-lynch I want to re-read those. He might be onto something there. All in all I have a good feeling about him. Reasonable tone and justified questions.
Distrust-list:
Superdeath: Superdeath granted us exactly 3 more posts on day 2, even less then on day 1. Those were: A understable, but other then being voted by him, baseless vote against Chevalier (
#437). A low effort defense of that accusation at (
#519, with a quick backtrack on that accusation and at last he throw himself on the scooter bus without much (
#638). In addition he voted late for Bob on day 1. I don't know if he's a villager or wolf, what I definitely know is that he's a burden.
scooter: Scooter began day 2 with vote for Adrien (
#444) and arguments against all other Bob-voters including himself. The biggest thing happened around scooter was the big fight between him and Lewwyn. I found this fight very tireing and frustrating. I still can't for sure say who looks more scummy for me. There's just so much of it and I hope I can get to it today. The biggest issue with scooter of course is that he voted for two villagers in a row right now, but the first vote looked more like a genuine stress-test of Bob and the second wasn't the deciding vote (that was Rowain). Later there are posts like (
#511), which looks to me like a reasonable defense by a villager. I agree with scooter about Commodore
here . All in all it's still very muddy for me. Curious to see how things are going on day 3.
Lewwyn: Now here is an exception to the disclaimer above. I started this post and left Lewwyn for last, not because of any suspicions but mainly because there's just so much of him. Now I'm almost running out of time to post this for the night deadline, so forgive me if I don't quote so often. The things I see going for him are his late vote for Cyneheard, which was either dangerous as a wolf or a very brave cover. The biggest problem that I now face with him is that there is so much and it's hard for me to get a grap of him. He started this huge fight with scooter on day 2, which we all have noticed. Another big problem I have with him is his tone. I constantly have the feeling that I'm being talked down.
pindicator: A lot of people were and are very suspicious about him, especially after Adrien was lynched. I do want to give him a thorough re-read of all of his posts, but I'm time pressured. I did say I trusted his judgement in the past, but I might be totally mistaken about that.
Undecided:
naufragar: After some general questions he started his day with this first noteworthy post (
#435), with looks like a correction or addition to other posts, I guess? He then backtracks from that in (
#445). Now I did note this as a negative yesterday, but I think I was to quick to judge there, Lewwyns post is a bit suspicious. Then later we have the continuation of the Serdoa vs Nauf saga at (
#461) He's arguing there that at the time Bob was sure to be hanged, which I disagree about, because at the time there were still a lot of people, who had to decide and the Bob bus was calming down a bit. At least that's what my take was at the time. He then votes GKC at (
#571), which I did not see at all. He later continues struggles with Serdoa, GKC and Rowain. Then we have a very important vote from him at (
#642) This was the 6th vote for Adrien and continued the late bus to Adrien. All in all I have to say I don't get it with nauf. On the one hand we have the vote for Cyneheard which was important and on the other hand we have the vote for Adrien on day 2, which was equally important at the time. Still undecided about him.
Commodore: Started his day 2 with a summary of the events that happened and a general suspicion of scooter and Adrien (
#452) and I also want to point out for Lewwyn, but that was a weak suspicion. He then joined Lewwyn on the scooter bus and stayed there for the rest of the day. He also expressed distrust towards pindicator (
#607). I also want to point out that he too still had suspicions about Adrien (
#634) just like on day 1. Also your phone is awesome. All in all it feels a lot like he was the assistant to Lewwyn for day 2. There's still the vote for Bob from day 1 which is a problem and he was one of the first pointing out stuff about Adrien, although he didn't vote for him. I'm still unsure about him. It feels like he took the easy way and just joined Lewwyn on scooter.
Rowain: Others brought up his voting pattern on day 1, which might have contributed to save Cyneheard from the lynch. Then on day 2 he was the 5th vote for Adrien, which could be argued as a try to get a safe mislynch on Adrien. He voted and argued against GKC here (
#556), which is interesting and I like to know more about that. Right now I'm not leaning towards anything for him and I will just observe how he does on day 3.
GKC: Things that speak against him are his vote for Bob and his sole vote for nauf on day 2. Still don't know were to put him. What strikes me most is that most of his posts on day 2 are just short questions directed at others. That's something that I totally missed. He voted scooter (
#491) without much explanation only to return to his favorite day 2 target nauf (
#574) later. He came under pressure by others, but only defended himself with short posts. I think we need to know more from him.
