WW 46: Wolves Return to Realms Beyond

[superdeath]

CMF 

One of you or Pindi are scum if Rowain isnt the last wolf. Im voting you based entirely on your previous vote for me. AND that another person that voted for me turned out to be a wolf. ( Cyne ) Also, because Rowain has PLENTY of votes on him.

[Commodore]

Thank you, CMF. You haven't convinced me you're a villager, sorry, but you're definitely playing the game, which I appreciate.
[quote='Chevalier Mal Fet' pid='747413' dateline='1599873455']
8 players left. 2 dead scum, at least 1 living scum. Plus 2 more villagers lynched, 4 murdered. 

If I go with Occam's Razor, the simplest theory of roles that fits the available evidence is that we had a Serial Killer and a wolf faction, not a vigilante, plus Commodore's doctor. 

The SK takes down Cyneheard on N1 while the wolves kill Gaspar. 
N2 the SK goes for Lewwyn/Meiz while the wolves claim the other. 
N3 GKC is murdered (maybe by SK, maybe the wolves as no longer useful?), while Commodore blocks the attempt on Serdoa. 

That eliminates the weirdness with role blockers and switchers, it eliminates the weird vigilante stuff. None of our survivors has taken credit for Cyneheard, not even our claimed vigilante. That makes it a pretty obvious SK to me. That also explains all of our nightkills.[/qupte]
One issue, I doctored Meiz on Night 2. A few takes:
-Rowain's case that I'm purple scum hinges on me lying about that, after killing off the last red wolf I am now safe to claim doctor. He's not nearly admiring enough of the work that I put in in this case, given I breadcrumbed my heals at the end of Night 2 semi-expecting to die as a Scooter Enemy.
-So either SK Pindicator kills Meiz or Lewwyn and I get roleblocked, or there is a switcher and Pindicator (SK or vig) shoots Scooter, but Scooter/Meiz are switched and thus Meiz takes the Pin-knife. Downside of his later theory is that I'm incorrect in my healing target and I lose pride points.

Night 3 I could have been successful, or SK and wolves could have doubled up on GKC (okay, would be weird), or the SK/wolves could have held their shot. I'd love to assume I was successful but I don't get confirmation like that one way or another.
[quote]3 wolves or 4? I don't know. 3 would kind of fit my problems suspecting anyone, I read everyone as "eh COULD be scum" to "village." [/quote]
Ignoring the wild speculation of Rowain for the moment (two packs have happened in the past, but it's highly unusual), I agree with favoring the serial killer + wolves theory. We aren't going to be so lucky as to have three wolves. I think a rubric Brick has used in the past is "25% or a hair over" for scum fractions, on these not-even-close-to-mountainous setups. Three wolves and a SK seems weak. Four wolves and a SK seems rough. A traitor or Serial Killer's apprentice is a way to balance things a bit more. Basically, lots of setups here but no, we don't just have one more wolf.

[Commodore]

That's...awful, Superdeath.

Tally as of post 924:

Lynch votes
5 votes: Rowain (Commodore, Chevalier Mal Fet, Rowain, Charriu, naufragar)
2 votes: Chevalier Mal Fet (SD, pindicator)
1 votes: pindicator (Serdoa)

15 Hours, 30 minutes remaining.

So here's the thing. I'm 90% on Pindicator being serial killer. There are far too many scenarios where he's SK, and far to few where he's being honest. Him killing GKC would be excellent for framing a big chunk of village. But it is 100% Rowain has either histrionically flipped his lid and declared war on the village, or he's scum. We're already carrying one useless load, can we afford to carry two duds into the endgame?

[Commodore]

Confirmed scum over deeply suspected scum was my Scooter over Pindicator rubric last day, I'm going to stick with it

[pindicator]

It's cool. I was scum for saving Cyneheard and now I'm scum for killing him. Doesn't matter what I do or say, I'm always the next person up to be lynched. No respect, as Dangerfield says. Next time I get vig I'll just shoot myself and spare myself your razors, occum or otherwise.

I'm not done yet because after Rowain flips scum we still have another and you all better start thinking about what you're going to do when I don't turn out to be it, because that's where you all seem to want to go.

But if one of you assholes shot Cyneheard night 1 and isn't claiming, then you better be the SK otherwise we're going to have words after all this is done.

[pindicator]

I wish I could edit out the vulgarity, I regret typing it. It's just frustrating being constantly accused for being scum for something I didn't do, whether it was defending Cyneheard or night killing him.

[pindicator]

Although if you do claim they'll probably lynch you next, so 8 guess i can see why you aren't...

[superdeath]

I wish I could edit out the vulgarity, I regret typing it.  It's just frustrating being constantly accused for being scum for something I didn't do, whether it was defending Cyneheard or night killing him.

its ok, i didnt vote for you <3

[pindicator]

Oh they're not voting for me even. It's always "gotta lynch him tomorrow". At first it was like sure, I didn't pay enough attention to Cyneheard I deserve a bit of heat. But every day it's a different reason and meanwhile people who are doing scummy things- or very little at all, *ahem* -are being ignored

[superdeath]

and meanwhile people who are doing scummy things- or very little at all, *ahem* -are being ignored

all part of the plan