WW 46: Wolves Return to Realms Beyond

[Commodore]

Sleepy is probably a Brickism? Perhaps has to skip nights?

Cyneheard didn't have to be killed, by the way, if his JOAT had a bomb ability. He could have bombed Rowain, hilariously.

[Serdoa]

Oh come on superdeath...

Ok, so I can't type much now, it's late (11 PM here) and my wife wants to sleep. Anyhow, I'm a villager as well without further powers.

As for superdeath: I don't believe this claim. It seems to convenient for a wolf that fears he was watched killing. That's why I wanted him to claim first, so he has to assume I know something.

(More tomorrow, my wife is upset now...)

[superdeath]

Not enough, Superdeath. Who did you shoot each night?

Yeah, Superdeath, going to need that full target list.

Nightkill Cyneheard.

/kapow 

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Night 2-

Kill Lewwyn

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Shoot GKC 

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SHOOT, CMF. plz and thank you. 


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These are the various messages i sent to our supreme overlord Brick. Due to my intuition/various things i saw in posts.. i shot each one. Cyneheard specifically because he voted for me. Lewwyn because i was convinced that someone posting that much was just trying to confuse everyone. GKC because he seemed the next likely wolf, and CMF because he also had voted for me like Cyneheard did, and i figured that would mean that the wolves had tried to lynch me waaaaaay back then.


Charriu is still my vote.

[naufragar]

What did you think of two other people (Pind/Scooter) claiming vigilante roles?

[superdeath]

What did you think of two other people (Pind/Scooter) claiming vigilante roles?

not knowing the setup and what all Brick could have done to it, i didnt believe either one. Figured town had enough villagers + me ( and i guess a doctor as well? ) to balance it out. When it turned out Scooter was a wolf, well i figured MAYBE pindi was telling the truth... turns out both were lying.

[Commodore]

SO to be clear, Superdeath, you are claiming to be village-aligned, but also a better serial killer than Pindicator?

[Commodore]

So going by these claims:

Players: (5 alive)

• Bobchillingworth - lynched Day 1 - Villager
  
• Cyneheard - killed Night 1 - Werewolf Jack of All Trades
  
• El Grillo - killed Night 1 - Village Hider
  
• Gaspar - killed Night 1 - Village Tracker
  
• AdrienIer - lynched Day 2 - Villager
  
• Lewwyn - killed Night 2 - Villager 1-shot Commuter
  
• Meiz alias thrawn - killed Night 2 - Villager
  
• scooter - lynched Day 3 - Werewolf
  
• GeneralKilCavalry alias GeneralKillCavalry alias GKC - killed Night 3 - Villager
  
• Rowain - lynched Day 4 - Villager
  
• Chevalier Mal Fet alias CMF - killed Night 4 - Villager
  
• pindicator - killed Night 4 - Sleepy, 1-Shot Bulletproof Serial Killer
  
• Serdoa - Villager
  
• naufragar - Villager
  
• superdeath - Villager Vigilante
  
• Commodore - Villager Doctor
  
• Charriu - Villager
  

Superdeath has claimed to be responsible for a villager death every single night but night 1, unless El Grillo hid behind Cyneheard. All mysteries are resolved by this claim; Pindicator didn't claim Cyneheard because he didn't kill him. I was able to protect Meiz from one kill, but Pin/wolves double-killed him. Everyone else can indeed be vanilla, although clearly 1 or 2 are vanilla wolves because the game is still going. In this case, Superdeath has been more effective than the wolves at decimating the village.

FML. That kind of does sound on-brand.

[superdeath]

SO to be clear, Superdeath, you are claiming to be village-aligned, but also a better serial killer than Pindicator?

Just bad luck. I probably wouldnt have shot every night had i not been so lucky the first night. I assume El Grillo hid behind Cyneheard.

In this case, Superdeath has been more effective than the wolves at decimating the village.

FML. That kind of does sound on-brand.  

 


I suspect we have just one wolf remaining. Although could be two. If there is only 1, we got a good chance of winning. If there are two.... well we better lynch one today. Charriu or Nauf sound like the best candidates, unless Serdoa or Commodore have been playing the best mind-game ever.

[Charriu]

I still have a hard time believing Superdeath' claim. It's all just so convenient.

• Why would he want to kill Lewwyn in night 2? He voted for scooter on day 2 together with Lewwyn. It would have made much more sense to kill scooter, because he was a bigger suspect on day 2.
  
• Why wait with this reveal until know? That's awfully convenient. Commodore revealed himself near the beginning of day 4 and we all pleaded to Superdeath to participate in this game, but there was nothing from him expect some mystery talk on day 4.
  
• How does pindicator fit in all of this - a known serial killer? I find it highly unlikely that with a wolfpack, a serial killer and an unrestricted vigilante, we never once had a night with 3 kills. Yes there was night 1, but that is easily explained because El Grillo hid behind one of the others.
  

Together with the constant radio silence, I find it very hard to believe him.

[naufragar]

Serdoa and Charriu, both of you claim Superdeath's story is unbelievable, but what else explains the killings? Do we have a second Serial Killer, this time with multiple shots? If Superdeath is a wolf, he'd have to be in a separate pack to explain the double kills. Possible, but I'm doubtful.

I may be falling victim to WIFOM, but I don't think any wolf is going to make the insanely anti-town confession that Superdeath did. He's been as deadly to villagers as the wolves and could have single-handedly resolved the Pindicator-Scooter thing, but kept silent. I was sitting at my screen slack-jawed, because both of these are astounding. I don't think a wolf admits to either.

Unfortunately, this leaves me in a rough position. I believe Commodore is town-cleared. He claimed Doctor which is an incredibly risky claim. I think Superdeath is village (although I will feel very stupid if he's a brazen wolf). I know I'm village. That leaves Serdoa and Charriu. If we have a multishot vig, three wolves and a SK seems pretty weak opposition. Perhaps I'm wrong. If there were 4 wolves, then by my count they'd have to be Serdoa and Charriu. Comm protected Serdoa Night 3 and that night we only had one night kill. So it's tough for me to think Serdoa's the wolf. Therefore, Charriu.

I've overthought votes in the past. If someone wants to explain to what effect Superdeath is telling this particular lie, I'm receptive. As for Charriu's questions to SD, I'm especially interested in SD's answer to number 1:

Why would he want to kill Lewwyn in night 2? He voted for scooter on day 2 together with Lewwyn. It would have made much more sense to kill scooter, because he was a bigger suspect on day 2.

Other unresolved questions I have about the game: Why was Commodore, the self-avowed village Doctor, left alive for 2 nights? Surely he's a high priority wolf target. Why was Pindicator killed Night 4? He was an easy lynch today.