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WW47: Small Mafia Shenanigans

Deadline (a little late)
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Pindicator has been killed. He was the Town Tracker.

Day 2 Begins.
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Good luck town!
Suffer Game Sicko
Dodo Tier Player
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Good game pindicator, I was trying to be a more attractive target :D

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Well played Pindicator! Buy why did you have to be a PR. Anycase, that means that mafia either has a roleblocker or
a rolecop.
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Kaiser I saw you baiting but I've totally missed any PR slipups.
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  • A1: Mafia Goon, Mafia Roleblocker vs. Town Cop, Town Doctor, 5x Town Vanilla
  • A2: Mafia Goon, Mafia Roleblocker vs. Town Jailkeeper, Pindicator, 5x Town Vanilla
  • A3: Mafia Goon, Mafia Roleblocker vs. Town Mason, Town Mason, 5x Town Vanilla
  • B1: Mafia Goon, Mafia Rolecop vs. Pindicator, Town Friendly Neighbor, 5x Town Vanilla
  • B2: Mafia Goon, Mafia Rolecop vs. Town Jailkeeper, Town Friendly Neighbor, 5x Town Vanilla
  • B3: Mafia Goon, Mafia Rolecop vs. Pindicator, Town Doctor, 5x Town Vanilla
  • C1: Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon vs. Town Cop, 6x Town Vanilla
  • C2: Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon vs. Town Jailkeeper, 6x Town Vanilla
  • C3: Mafia Goon, Mafia Goon vs. Town Mason, Town Mason, 5x Town Vanilla
No its orange, I hope that helps Brick.

I was even trying to draw suspicion on pindicator at the end of Day 2 to present him to the wolves as a potential alter mislynch target for them. I was convinced quite early of a town Pindicator.

Our other town role does know the setup now. 

Rule question, can the wolf use his power and execute a night kill at the same time?
What happens if the Roleblocker blocks the jailkeeper, does he get to night kill or is his roleblocker ability blocked in jail?

Depending on the answer, a reveal is unnecessary in my opiniopn as it is most important for him to know what he is up against.

T-hawk

Alhambrams switch to El Grillo puts a good light on him, but we should investigate nevertheless.

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By the way Thawk, please elaborate why you played the Day 1 you did and also have a closer look at the accusations on you.

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Wow, that sucks, that tracker could have helped, though at least now we narrow down the setup a lot.  Yeah, I know my play looks terrible so far.  I'm used to playing tabletop combat board games where you try to avoid aggro from everyone (and I felt any post near the first deadline would only draw more), not this where I'm learning it's unavoidable when you have to start making some accusations.  I can only say my original guess, that Thrawn/Grillo was one of the wolves (correct) and the other was one of Amicalola/Alhambram trying to start up their own separate bandwagon, then Grillo let Alhambram pile on later to gain credibility.  And Pindicator started Grillo's wolf train then switched to me, which could mean Alhambram killed pindi to point attention to me and away from himself.
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I'm giving a small town lean for Amicalola on El Grillo's post, https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid749741
Very important to note that El Grillo never proceeded further with this, so cannot draw strong conclusions. But I think it's possible El Grillo was throwing shade on some targets, see what sticks and then have a reason to follow along later. Amicalola also went quite vocally on El Grillo & T-Hawk pairing (#115, #119), so I do get a positive vibe from that even when the vote ended up on non-El Grillo player. T-Hawk was the clear favorite at this point so I find the vote understandable.

T-Hawk did mention El Grillo as one possible part of wolf pairing, but his list was filled with players so I'm getting a null read on this, https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid749850
I think that just listing people together like this with no clear preference is suspicious. Maybe not immediately on posting, but on not further evolving the read despite the mentioned players getting attention. Why not take a stance on El Grillo when he picks up heat and T-Hawk is in danger of dying. T-Hawk kept his vote on thrawn with a very cold & analytical reason, and never came back to reconsider or to contribute more to his reads desite being prompted to do so. T-Hawk

Alhambram did vote thrawn, https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid749883
"flip flopping votes whole time makes me hard to grasp your intentions. Also voted for no lynch twice, which is best outcome if you hypothetically have wofl power role."
In my opinion the reasoning was very shallow, since I don't think the intentions for thrawns no lynching were ever really about suggesting that.
But his vote later against El Grillo gives me a pause enough to want to vote T-Hawk over him.

Kaiser's longer post (https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid749920) did contain a vote on thrawn but at the time of reading it it was clear he was looking more answers and enhancing it with a vote. He had valid suspicions agaisnt El Grillo here as well, so that combined with a later vote give a big town lean to me.
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