WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Meiz]

What do you think of Pindicator?

So far no real opinion. I don't like his last post

I still don't feel good about sunrise, as I think Gaspar is as Gaspar as Gaspar can be.  But that was what I said about scooter - whatever, I stand by Gaspar seeming town.

That's a bit too wishy-washy for me.  OTOH I'm inclined to give pindi a chance to hang himself later if he is scum on not on Day1.

My issue with this exact quote is that the logic for finding sunrise suspicious is very shallow. "I think Gaspar is town, so sunrise is suspicious for suspecting him". It's a valid point in itself, but I feel like town needs to look these in larger angles. Town can suspect town as well. There is no further analyzing on sunrise's reasoning for the vote (which I think seem legit and make me lean town on sunrise). Based on this point my preference to lynch Pind went up.

[Meiz]

Where did Gaspar suggest you and Lewwyn being on a team? This is the also mention I find and I don't think he's suggesting that? https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid752618

[Meiz]

For now I feel better voting for Pindicator due to the reasoning on my post #218
Btw. Pind, was the comment on "This is the Meiz I know" related to me suspecting you?

[Rowain]

From the active posters Sunrise and Meiz seem fine. Gasper seems to switch from good to bad between posts but suggesting me and Lewwyn are a team is plain stupid and I doubt he'd genuinely say that. From the others I find it hard to get a read on scum because everything is a mess, but I expect things will start clearing up after a couple of deaths. To be honest from what I see I expect the game for me to begin properly on D2 or even D3 when it's less people and some roles of the dead are known and there is something concrete to look at. If you don't kill me until then. And if you do that's fine because it's not fun sifting through a bazillion posts, the smaller game was a lot more enjoyable. Also you know each other but I don't. From those in WW47, Meiz seems fine as I said, Alhambram has said to little to say, the no lynch isn't great because if he's seeing danger rising on one of his teammates it's an easy way to not have to follow reason and join, and Kaiser seems off. So I'd go with Gasper first and Kaiser second as the most reliable reads that I have so far but would definitely like to see something concrete from Alhambram if not D1 then at least D2.

I thought I saw there were some questions for me but couldn't find them. If someone has one please ask again.

This is a post which will help us if you are lynched no matter your alignment so thanks for that. I still think you are a good lynch today.

[WarriorKnight]

Waldorf: The game is moving very quickly this evening.

Statler: Yes, someone must have told them it's harder to hit a moving target!

Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!

RP aside, here are some of my thoughts:

Lewwyn is still my #1 for reasons mentioned previously, and I'm not sure why thrawn has more votes despite similar circumstances. For you thrawn voters because his performance is vastly different from WW47, I'll point out that Lewwyn's performance between this game and WW46 is just as different. The important point I'll highlight is that WW47 only had 9 players and a far more open setup which made it far easier to keep up with everything (I'm speaking as a WW47 vet myself). WW46 is much more comparable to this game regarding setup and number of players, so why is Lewwyn not contributing this game? I'm not excusing thrawn's lack of contributing (he is 3rd on my list after all), but at least consider which game you are comparing previous performance against.

I'll keep my vote on Lewwyn for now, but will wait and see if any traction happens over the next few hours. If not, I'll likely switch to my No.2, GES. In addition to his RP being difficult to understand, most of his posting is lazy and responds to basic questions with a 'you dare question me? I'm watching you!' which is incredibly defensive. I don't buy his getting back into the game excuse, as Gazglum says it's could just as easily be a copout for a wolf. Plus there is this gem from post 155:

Lewwyn behavior is odd, indeed.  Even tho I ain't had the pleasure in years, Omar remember him.  Loud.  Talk a lot.  Now just a bunch of large pictures of a cartoon fox.  Omar suspicious.  But Omar know a target when he sees one, and the talking dog seems to have surprising wisdom in his words.

This is the only post defending Lewwyn that I've noticed (as far as I know anyway, I'm not looking back through every post) as well as the the only person that GES has outright defended (a brief 'I'm watching you for poking me, but you ain't suspicious yet' to Gazglum doesn't count). GES, what made you think Lewwyn had surprising wisdom in his words in this post?

3rd on my list is non-contributors. There are several but the 3 that stand out most are thrawn, Alhambram and Jabbz. If we don't have a strong lean today I'm happy to vote for any of them, but still prefer Lewwyn/GES. Not particularly inclined to vote for anyone else atm.


On the other spectrum sunrise is probably my highest town lean, not because of his reasoning for Gaspar (which I don't necessarily agree with) but his efforts for getting the game rolling and detail into posts. Other town leans are Meiz, Rowain, Gazglum and probably 1 or 2 others I'm forgetting.

I'll be around the next few hours although I'm not sure about deadline. It is Friday night so I might be willing to stay up until then, if not I will be sure to lock in my vote first.

[Meiz]

WarriorKnight, GES is referring to sunrise (the dog) and his accusatiosn against Gaspar.

[Meiz]

And how do you feel about Pind and my point against him?

[Gazglum]

Pindicator, you originally thought Mr Peanutbutter was the scummiest thing you were reading. Has something changed that opinion? What do you think of him now?

[WarriorKnight]

From the active posters Sunrise and Meiz seem fine. Gasper seems to switch from good to bad between posts but suggesting me and Lewwyn are a team is plain stupid and I doubt he'd genuinely say that. From the others I find it hard to get a read on scum because everything is a mess, but I expect things will start clearing up after a couple of deaths. To be honest from what I see I expect the game for me to begin properly on D2 or even D3 when it's less people and some roles of the dead are known and there is something concrete to look at. If you don't kill me until then. And if you do that's fine because it's not fun sifting through a bazillion posts, the smaller game was a lot more enjoyable. Also you know each other but I don't. From those in WW47, Meiz seems fine as I said, Alhambram has said to little to say, the no lynch isn't great because if he's seeing danger rising on one of his teammates it's an easy way to not have to follow reason and join, and Kaiser seems off. So I'd go with Gasper first and Kaiser second as the most reliable reads that I have so far but would definitely like to see something concrete from Alhambram if not D1 then at least D2.

I thought I saw there were some questions for me but couldn't find them. If someone has one please ask again.

My previous post crossposted with this one.

Eh, I'm not sure what to think about this. It feels very WW46 Bob resignation to me, and we all know what alignment Bob was in that game. But I definitely don't like his lack of firm opinions or his giving up at the game.

I still prefer Lewwyn/GES, but I think this makes thrawn my third pick.

[WarriorKnight]

And how do you feel about Pind and my point against him?  

Haven't been following pindi much, let me go through his posts and I'll get back to you shortly.