WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Kaiser]

Consecutive rereading from #212 on happens now, I have seen some post while researching the later persons on my list. I started Rowain, and then from the bottom up.

Gazglum, where does pindicator draw out people like you mentioned in #83 ?
Jabbz, whom or what were you answering to in #165?
Commodore, what do you mean with Lazy Omar in #168?
Sunrise, how would you categorize the players based on your post #196 after reading my above post?

[Commodore]

E'e kak tatakatakattaa? EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeee ttttttttt-tttt-ttt *chirp*
<What's this? I get in when a human would be done with taking kids to school, and now there's a train on me for some reason? Would someone be so kind as to summarize why, if Mellivar's early start means an early deadline I won't be able to catch up in time!>

[Gaspar]

My very quick read of the period where I was asleep is everyone seems somewhat afraid of making a mistake except for Meiz and maybe sunrise.  That gives me a town lean on Meiz.

Some rapid fire reads:

Thrawn seems earnest and feels like a mislynch given his posting today.  I will be moving my vote.

pindicator I need a reread, but feels very lynchable at the moment.

Don't like the dolphin.  Just feels lazy.

Love Omar.  Don't love GES.

Alhambram and Jabbz probably deserve to be lynched, but I'm not for day 1 policy lynches.

Lewwyn is a day 1 policy non-lynch for me.

Rowain seems pretty low-effort so far, but I am also predisposed to not want to lynch Rowain because I know I am predisposed to think he is scum.

Kaiser I have a hard time getting a read on.  Gonna try to rectify that as well.

Going to try and avoid sunrise and novice today as well because they haven't played recently and its good to have them back and also they've been driving the bus on me and I'm trying to not let that color my perception.

Going to park my vote on Commodore for about a half-hour until I come back after a re-read on pindi, Commodore, GES and Kaiser.

[BRickAstley]

Deadline is still at the normal time. 2 Hours and 35 minutes from this post.

[WarriorKnight]

Holy hell Kaiser, where do you find the time to make summaries like that? Don't have time to go through everything before deadline and a lot has happened since #212, but I will point this out:

Warriorknight: 
I love the RP but there is only marginally more than from Alhambram, please participate more (jokes and contribution). There might have been crossposts but at the state of #212, scum lean.

I've posted quite a bit since #212, though admittedly before that it wasn't much. Definitely think I need to post more jokes, although before deadline may not be the best timing. Your post deserves this one though:

Statler: I think that post raises a pertinent question.

Waldorf: What's that?

Statler: Why did they do it?

Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!

[Commodore]

EEE-*chirup* e'Eeeee ttickakakakatttata Eeeeee eee.
<[i]Pindicator until I complete my reread. Were I a human I'd have meetings first though.

[Cyneheard]

Yeah, that’s way more than I could ever do.

It’s hard making a rationale based on fairly limited information from so many of us but I’m comfortable with my thrawn-is-a-villager-avoiding his WW47 play read, and that pind seems like the best choice of the lurker contingent - what I’ve seen from him doesn’t add up.

[Meiz]

@Meiz what is your read on kaiser?

I can see why he would be initially (slightly?) suspicious of me. Last game we had the roles to discuss for, so I was able to engage early, while in here the start was slow due to most people enjoying roleplaying their characters. His early game is prodding quiet people with votes and questions, nothing out of the ordinary.

*reads his epos*

Seems like a huge effort for a wolf to pull off. Not just listing the events but giving his view on the matters as well. Leaning town.

[Kaiser]

From the active posters Sunrise and Meiz seem fine. Gasper seems to switch from good to bad between posts but suggesting me and Lewwyn are a team is plain stupid and I doubt he'd genuinely say that. From the others I find it hard to get a read on scum because everything is a mess, but I expect things will start clearing up after a couple of deaths. To be honest from what I see I expect the game for me to begin properly on D2 or even D3 when it's less people and some roles of the dead are known and there is something concrete to look at. If you don't kill me until then. And if you do that's fine because it's not fun sifting through a bazillion posts, the smaller game was a lot more enjoyable. Also you know each other but I don't. From those in WW47, Meiz seems fine as I said, Alhambram has said to little to say, the no lynch isn't great because if he's seeing danger rising on one of his teammates it's an easy way to not have to follow reason and join, and Kaiser seems off. So I'd go with Gasper first and Kaiser second as the most reliable reads that I have so far but would definitely like to see something concrete from Alhambram if not D1 then at least D2.

I thought I saw there were some questions for me but couldn't find them. If someone has one please ask again.

This is a post which will help us if you are lynched no matter your alignment so thanks for that. I still think you are a good lynch today.

Simply put if you get lynched we will get more information out of it than for lynching Jabbz or Alhambram. This is true no matter what alignment is shown afterwards. For example if you get lynched right now and turn up as wolf it would put Lewwyn strongly into town and Gaspar at least lightly so. It would also put Meiz in a more questionable light.
If you turn up town we know your opinions were honest (not flawless or right but honest) and we can go from there. + Some other implications.

Anyone who has been attacked and shows wolf will (mostly) clear his attackers. Why are you comparing me with Jabbz or Alhambram? They are not the other most wanted. And you point no benefit if I turn up town. My opinions will be honest. Great. The ones everyone was just saying weren't there and I needed to start posting. And some other vague implications that you don't mention.

Very, very strained reasoning. Afraid you are losing your easy bandwagon target? You just jumped to the top of my suspicion list and I will see what I can dig out from your prior posts when I have a free moment in the next couple of hours.

Anyone who has been attacked and shows wolf will (mostly) clear his attackers. Why are you comparing me with Jabbz or Alhambram? They are not the other most wanted. And you point no benefit if I turn up town. My opinions will be honest. Great. The ones everyone was just saying weren't there and I needed to start posting. And some other vague implications that you don't mention.

I have no interest in talking about what is if you are town because it would give wolves too much information to plan if they should help you get lynched, let you get lynched or try to save you.
But rest assured if you are lynched and town I will talk about my thoughts shortly before day 2.

I know it is quite easy (and natural) to jump on those that accuse you but look at the votes: you have currently 5 people voting for you. Try to keep your mind open.

I am happy to see more from Rowain and thrawn here, though I still feel that there is nearly no reads from Rowain. At least not stated, one could interpret some things into his questions/statements but this a thin paper trail to walk as it is open .

I think I'll join the pretty lady for a while (and yes Q she is a pretty lady)

Commodore

You could help me by providing some reasons for your vote here for example.

Okay, there's not much traction on Omar, and now it looks like he's gone to his safe house to wait for things to blow over. I'm not confident enough to try and drive a lynch on him, so I will move to Pindicator. And sadly I will now be out to bed until deadline.

Omar had before your switch as many votes as q, pink and commodore.

Interesting interaction you pointed out here.
Can anybody post a current tally please?

Thrawn I don't know (yet, hope to get you know you better!) so I don't really know about whether he is or isn't following his style. His posts do seem to make him a decent target though. Voting for Kaiser seemed to be a joke vote, and late in the day for making one, but then he defended it by saying 'Kaiser seems off'. So was it a joke or was it real? If real, how was he 'Off'? But instead of defending it he switched his vote to probably the next most likely train. The only thing in his favour is the way people piled on him - that feels like a comfortable place for at least one wolf to be, and took pressure off Gaspar, Lewwyn and Gold Ergo Sum. I could vote Thrawn. I'm not at the moment because he has plenty of pressure on him already. 

The joke was only in the RP, the vote was real. Look at his PBEM 18 reports and his WW47 postings. Very thorough, analytical, looking at all sorts of detail. He style here is similar, but his posts are largely devoid of content in comparison - and that's what I think is one difficulty in playing wolf - criticising the facts in a way that points not where they would really point especially since you have all the information - so it would be much more difficult to post the same volume in the same style than if he is genuine.

But why would you vote me other than being inactive to start with? Have I tried to set up a lynch or in some other way do I present strained arguments? CMF's read on me in WW47 was that I'm different than usual because wolf-thrawn would never leave the game for so long unattended - which is completely true and even though he failed in many of his other reads there, I said it then that this one was great.

Thrawn has reduced in suspicion for me by now, mostly due to the recent post and him stating his ides going into this game. He is correct that I was less content heavy than in WW47, which has been a busy week, but is basically done since this morning, hence the time for my big summary.

[Gaspar]

So thoughts...

Pindicator has contributed literally nothing.

Commodore basically has been on me all day because he didn't like some nonsense from the early part of the day. He's also been very argumentative, while both feeling no pressure and having no town reads. Feels scummy.

GES has also parked on me for no meaningful reason. My guess would be that reason is he's lazy scum. I sort of get a sense that sunrise and novice made it easy to park on me by presenting the first real case of the game and that's why I've had a lot of clingers voting for me.

I was going to go read Kaiser but he just critted me with that Roland Memorial Wall of Text™. Might read later.

Anyway, I'm comfortable voting for any of those 3 but I'm sticking with Commodore for now.