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(October 2nd, 2020, 08:52)BRickAstley Wrote: (October 2nd, 2020, 08:07)Kaiser Wrote: Giant Long Post
Kaiser please make sure you've clearly stated your vote after making any posts where you're using a Red text color in any other way.
I was hoping using only orange text for suspicious people would be enough not to mislead. My vote in the big post was on Jabbz for his scummy day1 play.
Right now Jabbz has no traction though and I do not want to vote a now value vote as I think it does help the wolves securing easier lynches with less commitment. Also I believe lynching Jabbz right now would be low tell if he turns up village.
It looks like the current decision will be between these
- Pindicator - low contribution and stretched sunrise arguments
- Thrawn - weird play in comparison to WW47, not actively hunting but only defending
- Commodore - argument on him misunderstanding GES
I honestly am undecided. I buy his defense better than Lewwyn does because I feel he was acting similar in WW47 at the end but I would need to look up on if he gave reads or just defended there.
I do not buy yet the Commodore case, without inspecting it further, so it is a heads up where I currently have not real good understanding of the pindicator case.
So it is thrawn and I will tryo to read up on pindicator but will be not on my pc until deadline, only on the phone.
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If it's Pindicator vs Commodore...
Pindicator, but I'd rather lynch GES or even WK.
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Well this feels more like the Lewwyn I'm used to.
I'm not buying his read of thrawn vs pind, but I'm glad he's here to give us something to work with.
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(October 2nd, 2020, 10:04)Gaspar Wrote: Commodore OTOH - like, what has he contributed? His post count is higher but like... he read me as scum for some nothing and then locked on it all day and only moved when he needed to find another lynch candidate?
Kaiser, this summarizes the case for Commodore pretty nicely. I'm also wodnering why Lewwyn has Commodore as towny, despite the face above, while he also had Gaspar as town.
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(October 2nd, 2020, 10:12)Meiz Wrote: (October 2nd, 2020, 09:57)pindicator Wrote: BTW, you find my post where I voted sunrise yet? Still haven't seen you mention it, just the later recap post over and over and over and over again. The original vote (#122) was okayish, but I did find it suspicious you later had the same though of sunrise is suspicious, because Gaspar is town. I was finding sunrise pretty towny already at that point, so I feel like your read on this never evolved and thus think it was based on too simple logic. Gaspar wasn't (and still isn't) clear town either, but neutral at best, so I find you basing the read just for Gaspar is town - read suspicious. It's unfortunately you didn't post more for day 1. Yes we can't affect RL stuff which can be true in your case as well, but I felt last game we were on the same page almost from start.
@Lewwyn, I agree hia read on sunrise was not strong, but I still think my original point on it stands. Too shallow logic for reasoning why Gaspar is town and therefore sunrise is suspicious.
Okay let's look at the [art of contention in pindi's post:
(October 2nd, 2020, 01:15)pindicator Wrote: I still don't feel good about sunrise, as I think Gaspar is as Gaspar as Gaspar can be. But that was what I said about scooter - whatever, I stand by Gaspar seeming town.
So pindi says he thinks Gaspar is acting like Gaspar and therefore is town... I AGREE. I also feel like Gaspar is as Gaspar as Gaspar can be. Gaspar feels like Gaspar from WW46. I can't fault pindi for going into shorthand like this. I said that Rowain felt like Rowain last game and I wish I had not changed my mind later on. I don't see why you are suspicious of that. I also don't see why you are connecting the sunrise and Gaspar parts together. Feels like he's just commenting on how his previous read has shifted.
I think your logic is both tenuous and wrong. But hey maybe I'm wrong... I'm just a villager.
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Looks like I got invited to a meeting that I don't need to be at / have nothing to contribute to.
(October 2nd, 2020, 10:12)Meiz Wrote: The original vote (#122) was okayish, but I did find it suspicious you later had the same though of sunrise is suspicious, because Gaspar is town. I was finding sunrise pretty towny already at that point, so I feel like your read on this never evolved and thus think it was based on too simple logic. Gaspar wasn't (and still isn't) clear town either, but neutral at best, so I find you basing the read just for Gaspar is town - read suspicious. It's unfortunately you didn't post more for day 1. Yes we can't affect RL stuff which can be true in your case as well, but I felt last game we were on the same page almost from start.
@Lewwyn, I agree hia read on sunrise was not strong, but I still think my original point on it stands. Too shallow logic for reasoning why Gaspar is town and therefore sunrise is suspicious.
Okay, yes thank you for reading it. Those were my thoughts at the time in #122. The recap was just a quick response recapping my previous post, it wasn't intended to show any evolution in thought. I will say that Gaspar's last rung a lot of alarm bells for me. Last night instead of playing some RL stuff happened and I'm moping about that (sparing you all details though if I were to RP my char he would totally give TMI here) and yes, it's spilling over a bit. (Actually, that's a bit more Sgt Hatred than Henchman 21 kind of RP...)
This last hour of seeing your posts and replies has me feeling better about you, Meiz. This is very much like what I've seen the last two games and I just hope you get to roll wolf one of these games 
Anyway, speaking of Gaspar's last:
(October 2nd, 2020, 10:04)Gaspar Wrote: I get what you're saying Lew but I just think its more likely Thrawn has retreated to his shell and doesn't know what to do because everything he's done in these games has gotten him criticism. Surely he'd be doing better with a little guidance. Maybe he wouldn't, but I think that will reveal itself over time.
If I were to lynch a self-pitier, it would be pindicator, but I feel like if he were scum he'd feel obliged to try harder.
Commodore OTOH - like, what has he contributed? His post count is higher but like... he read me as scum for some nothing and then locked on it all day and only moved when he needed to find another lynch candidate?
Fake edit: Thrawn's most recent posts just cement my opinion where he's flailing. Pindicator's attitude today has been totally unhelpful but I think he's town. I just think he'd help his scum buddies. If it comes down to him vs thrawn though I'd vote pindicator because I really hate the give up bullshit.
Isn't that backwards? Wouldn't you want the stronger player around longer and not the noob? Especially if you don't think he's scum?
I'm not saying I'm giving up, btw. Full disclosure on the moping, there's an ulterior motive: I've never been lynched day 1. It's kind of a bucket list thing. And admitting that is going to kill any chance of it happening today, but I guess I can't stay moping forever. (Wheh, good thing I'm not piloting a pitboss right now, we'd have a recap of PB31 or something crazy like that.)
I'm still happy voting for Thrawn. Lewwyn is making good points and it's solidifying my thoughts on that.
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(October 2nd, 2020, 10:16)Meiz Wrote: (October 2nd, 2020, 10:14)Lewwyn Wrote: If you think I'm trying to save pin... you would have to think I'm trying to save Pin and Comm. And that would be stupid. Are you calling me stupid?
I have to admit this is where I'm leaning at the moment. And that makes me very interested on either of them alignments. I wil lalso say scum-Lewwyn can't easily accept scum being lynched on day 1.
I guess if anyone would play this gambit it would be me. But it's A) too risky and B) not how I would try to save pin.
If I really wanted to try and save pin I would have voted for pin as soon as I got up, made the bandwagon bigger and then said I don't like th company I'm keeping, then swapped off and used leading questions to get other people to jump off.
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(October 2nd, 2020, 10:17)AdrienIer Wrote: If it's Pindicator vs Commodore...
Pindicator, but I'd rather lynch GES or even WK.
COME ON!
it's not between then if you come and vote on thrawn. Though I also don't like WK...
AT least comment on the thrawn bit.
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(October 2nd, 2020, 10:18)Cyneheard Wrote: Well this feels more like the Lewwyn I'm used to.
I'm not buying his read of thrawn vs pind, but I'm glad he's here to give us something to work with.
Buddy, Pal, Friend, Broski.... please
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