WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[novice]

On mobile so I won't be able to give anything other than snap insights, though not sure I do much other than that anyway.

Gaz dying but not flipping is weird but from the reveal we did get and the pregame setup im expecting a lot of weirdness. Odds are hes town bc that's what I read him as yesterday and all the other explanations are too WIFOM for my tastes.

I dont see anything that makes me think I'm wrong about Commodore. My entire scum read on pindicator is mostly based on thinking scum didnt know about thrawn and that Comm decided to try and save himself and pindicator.

Commodore

You’re keeping an awfully small footprint here, House. Tell me, are small footprints and tunnel vision symptoms of Lupus?

[pindicator]

Lewwyn is reading my mind a second day in a row. Gold Ergo Sum is reading a lot like lazy day 1 scum to me. He's also a quick read since he's posted so little.

@novice, I believe the very post you quoted answers your question

[Rowain]

The event at the enmd of Day1:
At T-2hours:
Lynch votes
5 votes: pindicator ( Meiz,Cyneheard,WarriorKnight,Gazglum,Commodore)
4 votes: Commodore (Jabbz,novice,Rowain,Gaspar)
2 votes: Q (Lewwyn, pindicator)
2 votes: Gaspar ( Gold Ergo Sum, ,Q)
1 votes: Gold Ergo Sum (, AdrienIer)
1 votes: Lewwyn ( sunrise089)
1 votes: Jabbz (Kaiser, )
1 votes: Alhambram (Bob)
1 votes: no lynch (Alhambram)

the trher is 1 hour no change at T-1 hour Q moves his vote to pindi
Lynch votes
6 votes: pindicator ( Meiz,Cyneheard,WarriorKnight,Gazglum,Commodore,Q)
4 votes: Commodore (Jabbz,novice,Rowain,Gaspar)
2 votes: Q (Lewwyn, pindicator)

15 minutes later (T-45 minutes) Kaiser (to Q) and Adrien (to pindi) move their vote
Lynch votes
7 votes: pindicator ( Meiz,Cyneheard,WarriorKnight,Gazglum,Commodore, Q,AdrienIer)
4 votes: Commodore (Jabbz,novice,Rowain,Gaspar)
3 votes: Q (Lewwyn, pindicator,Kaiser)

Again 30 minutes with no movement then (T-15 minutes) Adrien moves from pindi to Q. At this very moment with 6 votes pindi 4 votes each on Commodore and Q
Commodore moves from pindi to Q endangering himself making the vote 5 - 5 - 4 That is why we need to know your alignment Commodore to know if this was a wolf who was happily bussing another wolf suddenly seeing a chance to save both by lynching Q

At T-4 minutes I move to Q pushing him upfront and now the second strange occurrence happens: Kaiser votes Q again as if he had forgotten he had already voted for him 40 Minutes before. Is your memory so weak Kaiser? or is it hard to remember what one did while balancing scumthread and gamethread?

Then Gaspar,sunrise,q and novice made it to the endresult.

[Alhambram]

You say pindi and comm come off as less scummy at that moment. Now you're voting for comm. Is he more scummy now?

I was wondering about Commodore's use of word "scumbuddy"  at post #581 and Pindicator's words "fooled them" at post #582.
Maybe because I am not native english speaker, I lack same level of understanding as you how you look at their exchange.
But I think that you shouldn't use those words unless you wants paint tagret at yourself. In short I didn't extactly understand why they are saying that.
If they are really joking, then it seems that I have different sense of humor.


And with that moment I meant the last hour of day 1, both Commodore and Pindicator did come across less scummy than Thrawn for me when I re-read, so NOT less than other players.
And now Thrawn is gone and Pindicator and Commodore are doing such antics, which I wonder why?
Also I did vote for Bob before because he didn't post anything and he did post now something, soI don't see no reason for me to park vote at Bob anymore.
And honestly I am starting feel bit irritiated at Commodore's dolphin antics.

I would assume they are joking and making fun of everyone who thinks they are scum together. I found it very funny. 

What is irritating you about flipper's antics? You mean the Roleplay?

Yeah the roleplay slowly starts to irritatie me more. And unlikely you I didn't assume that they were joking, well seems that out taste of humor are different.

Aside that novice crosspost #590 raises a good point, instead only staring at Commodore and Pindicator antics, we can also spend time checking others.
I already asked Bob who did also contribute little at day 1 same as me a question and he answered at post #578. Lewwyn, what are your thoughts about Bob's post #578?

[Alhambram]

Edit: I mean our taste of humor instead out

[Lewwyn]

I’d also like to point out that thrown votes for himself at the end. And I think that’s because he believed pindicator to be scum. I mean was trying to make sure that he hung and the only reason I can think of is to assure pindi lives. Now, thrown doesn’t actually know who the wolves are so in that way his guess is as good as any other villagers. But I do think he was convinced. I think that’s interesting.

[Rowain]

Lets us look further on Kaisers Q-posts:
45 Minutes ´before lynch:

Right now Jabbz has no traction though and I do not want to vote a now value vote as I think it does help the wolves securing easier lynches with less commitment. Also I believe lynching Jabbz right now would be low tell if he turns up village.

It looks like the current decision will be between these
- Pindicator - low contribution and stretched sunrise arguments
- Thrawn - weird play in comparison to WW47, not actively hunting but only defending
- Commodore - argument on him misunderstanding GES

I honestly am undecided. I buy his defense better than Lewwyn does because I feel he was acting similar in WW47 at the end but I would need to look up on if he gave reads or just defended there.

I do not buy yet the Commodore case, without inspecting it further, so it is a heads up where I currently have not real good understanding of the pindicator case.
So it is thrawn and I will tryo to read up on pindicator but will be not on my pc until deadline, only on the phone.

And 40 Minutes later:

I feel thrawn had a believable defense but his play is so different to Ww47 and he defended more constructive there. Granted the pressure was higher as well as he was tied top lynch.

I am already cutting slack to Jabbz and Alhambram whose play i both disliked more than pindicators. So I am giving pindicator some time to improve his play as well.

I need more time to analyze the commodore case but had a more neutral read so far and need to reevaluate this during the night

How similar they sound. Btw there were no posts from Kaiser between those 2 posts.

[Rowain]

I’d also like to point out that thrown votes for himself at the end. And I think that’s because he believed pindicator to be scum. I mean was trying to make sure that he hung and the only reason I can think of is to assure pindi lives. Now, thrown doesn’t actually know who the wolves are so in that way his guess is as good as any other villagers. But I do think he was convinced. I think that’s interesting.

OTOH I think that Q thought pindi to be a wolf so he voted himself off to make sure he dies  - as it is still a mislynch for winning conditions.

Oh and Kaiser

[novice]

@novice, I believe the very post you quoted answers your question

Fine, I’ll let this go. I couldn’t find any comment at all from you on Commodore prior to the posts in question so I guess your story checks out.

Meanwhile looks like Rowain could be on to something.

With suspicions raised, suddenly this line from his last Kaiser quote sounds awfully scummy:

I need more time to analyze the commodore case but had a more neutral read so far and need to reevaluate this during the night

[novice]

I’d also like to point out that thrown votes for himself at the end. And I think that’s because he believed pindicator to be scum. I mean was trying to make sure that he hung and the only reason I can think of is to assure pindi lives. Now, thrown doesn’t actually know who the wolves are so in that way his guess is as good as any other villagers. But I do think he was convinced. I think that’s interesting.

OTOH I think that Q thought pindi to be a wolf so he voted himself off to make sure he dies  - as it is still a mislynch for winning conditions.

Oh and Kaiser

Is it really relevant what Q thought though?