WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Rowain]

Comment on GES big post:
After parsing through all the names I find nothing to disagree with. All in all a move towards townness for me.


Any other people commenting? Especially those voting GES currently. Additional Meiz, novice, Gaspar?  

@George  GES promised a big post several hours ago. And more or less has delieverd one concerning Day 1. I hope a day2 post will follow

[Jabbz]

Also, a large part of my concern with the Rowain/Meiz push on the fish is that they seem to be stuck there, and I'm concerned with tunnel vision. making them read anyone who disagrees with them as scummy, as well as hindering other reads. Starting the day already there and not looking elsewhere is problematic for town.

You did read BRicks tally? You saw that I'm currently voting for Kaiser or did you misread that too? That I made a case and gave some reasons why? Do you even read what I write or to you cherrypick one post and then go with that and ignore anything else?

I really need to stop checking new posts. Hard not to respond. Your vote doesn't much matter in the middle of the day. You've been 100% clear that you want to lynch Commo then maybe pind today and tomorrow. Sure you have a vote somewhere else, good for you. But you seem to be closed minded to the idea that you could be wrong, as evidenced by the aforementioned repeatedly desired lynch of commo. Your response to me for questioning that was to get aggressive. Exactly the things I'm listing in that snippet you took from my post.

[Rowain]

Also, a large part of my concern with the Rowain/Meiz push on the fish is that they seem to be stuck there, and I'm concerned with tunnel vision. making them read anyone who disagrees with them as scummy, as well as hindering other reads. Starting the day already there and not looking elsewhere is problematic for town.

You did read BRicks tally? You saw that I'm currently voting for Kaiser or did you misread that too? That I made a case and gave some reasons why? Do you even read what I write or to you cherrypick one post and then go with that and ignore anything else?

I really need to stop checking new posts. Hard not to respond. Your vote doesn't much matter in the middle of the day. You've been 100% clear that you want to lynch Commo then maybe pind today and tomorrow. Sure you have a vote somewhere else, good for you. But you seem to be closed minded to the idea that you could be wrong, as evidenced by the aforementioned repeatedly desired lynch of commo. Your response to me for questioning that was to get aggressive. Exactly the things I'm listing in that snippet you took from my post.

Do you think we should ignore Day 1 and what happened at the end of it? So far iyour action today have been getting fixated on me, Meiz and a possible Commodore-lynch.
But coming in telling well Rowain you are voting for Kaiser currently but I'm sure you will vote Commodore in the end is such a load of BS and will earn you my ire.

In a very peacefulk and harmonious way how about you Jabbz state clearly you don't want to lynch commodore. Make it clear why you think him to be town and make a case on who you think scum.

BTW currently Commodore has 6 votes none of which is mine.

[AdrienIer]

I'm kind of at a loss, there's no one that's distinctly scummy right now. GES's post was fine and if there's another one for D2 it'll be mostly fine. The big posters seem like their usual selves, the two targets from D1 are IMO absolutely fine, so I'm going to look at lower content posters.
Alhambram's misunderstanding of the pindi/com exchange was odd though, and he's the one with the smallest post count. The only question is : would he be lazy enough to jump on such a bad case ?
Jabbz is "not great, not terrible" so far. Content is ok.
Kaiser's big post from D1 was good, and I find his posts pretty good so far.
WK's content is too low. Analysis on 3 people and that's it for D2.
Bob needs more posts, but I don't have scummy vibes on him.

Alhambram for now, closely followed by WK. And now, instead of doing analysis on interactions, I'm going to do some work that cannot wait

[novice]

Thanks for your D1 post Omar. Everything you say can and will be used against you, so willingly sharing info is the sign of a good citizen. It doesn’t make you a snitch.*
* Feeble attempt at roleplay

Additionally, CIA placed a vote on Flip in D1 when Q already had around six votes I think based on my notes.  Skelly called him out for it, saying it was a null vote.  This was at a time the Q train was starting to form, which Queen pointed out was taking pressure off the top vote getters at the time.  If CIA was a villain who knew Q was a snitch, why throw away a vote on Flip when Doc, Weeb Fox and Omar and a couple others had better chances of being lynched?  

So Omar thinking CIA is village and villains did not know Q was a snitch. 

Is the bolded part supposed to follow from the preceding paragraph? If so, how? If not, why do you think that?

Why kill Queen?  This seemed like an odd one to Omar.  Omar assume villains want to kill someone with no threat of being lynched (yup) but that provided little concrete thoughts (nope).  So Omar figured the lynch (you mean nightkill?) would be Jabbz, Simpson, or Jerry!, since they were the lowest information voters, with the least expressed opinions and no threat of being lynched.  

It’s not important to debate, but in my opinion there are two wrong assumptions here - I think generally scum try to kill active players who are hard to lynch. And I don’t think they would consider Jabbz, Simpson and George hard to lynch. So framing Omar could be one motivation for killing Gazglum, but I don’t think it would be the primary motivation.

Oh and I can confirm that I didn’t visit anyone on N1.

[novice]

Apologies for stumbling across your path as you glide through the game on the back of your reputation; I'm sure you'll be fine.

I’m sure I will. Shouldn’t you be trying to prevent that, if you think I’m scum?

What do you think of Rowain’s D1 vote analysis?

[Gaspar]

I can't believe I just read that Wall of Text from GES. I'm still crumbling under its weight, but I read it.

Three comments:

1. I think from now on I'm going to call everyone by Omar's nicknames. I wonder how many times I can call Lewwyn "Weeb Fox" before he kicks me off the 55 team.
2. CIA seems like a terrible waste of a tracker charge. Early on you want the low-info guys doing kills, a scum novice isn't killing anyone until much later in the game.
3. Its seems consistent with Omar's reading of the game however, since his analysis of who scum would target is poor. If all of them are village, I would have expected CIA, Weeb Fox or Meiz to die as they are highly active players who had little to no suspicion on day 1. As Weeb Fox suggested, I would think Queen died because scum didn't like her targets, which were Omar and Doc, er me. I'm not willing to go with a lynch on Doc because of it, because I really like that guy, but it does add to my suspicion on Omar, for sure.

[Gaspar]

I probably won't keep doing any of that, as it probably muddies things coming from me. Well, except Lewwyn who is Weeb Fox forever now.

[novice]

Comment on GES big post:
After parsing through all the names I find nothing to disagree with. All in all a move towards townness for me.

Any other people commenting? Especially those voting GES currently. Additional Meiz, novice, Gaspar?  

I would agree it’s a step in the right direction. Hot takes on Cyneheard and Sunrise, original content on Adrienier and Kaiser conspiring together.

[novice]

Thanks for your summary on active cases, Commodore. I’m not sure where I’ve indicated that I will flip to you at end of day, but it’s a fair assumption.

The really important part of course, which I eagerly await, is this:

So I guess I need to do individual reads and gives leans while I have the time here. I'll be freer during the interminable meetings tomorrow morning but that's a late in the day.