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WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

(October 4th, 2020, 18:37)Gaspar Wrote: My two cents as we enter the Amerilull™

WK seems more lazy than scummy
Adrien seems more scummy than lazy

Neither looks great.

Not moving off Commodore until he does anything that resembles trying to hunt scum.

You always read comm as scum no matter. The question is whether you are a blind villager who is right or wrong or scum using your bias as cover to vote in a way I can't get a good read on you.
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Tally as of post 733:

Lynch votes
4 votes: Commodore/Flipper (Meiz, Gaspar, Alhambram, WarriorKnight)
2 votes: Rowain/Uncle Iroh (Kaiser, Commodore)
2 votes: Kaiser/Isaac (Rowain, novice)
1 votes: Alhambram/Homer Simpson (AdrienIer)
1 votes: Gold Ergo Sum/Omar Little (pindicator)
1 votes: novice/Carrie Mathison (Bobchillingworth)
1 votes: AdrienIer/Ron Swanson (Cyneheard)
1 votes: WarriorKnight/Statler & Waldorf (Lewwyn)

Voting history:
Rowain Wrote: Flipper
AdrienIer Wrote: GES
Alhambram Wrote: George Costanza
novice Wrote: Henchman 21
Meiz Wrote: Flipper
Gaspar Wrote: Flipper
Kaiser Wrote: Uncle Iroh
Bobchillingworth Wrote: * Gaspar * novice
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Henchman 21
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Carrie Mathison
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Allanon
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Gold Ergo Sum
Bobchillingworth Wrote: George Costanza
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Homer Simpson
Commodore Wrote: *chirup* reEEE
Commodore Wrote: GES
Lewwyn Wrote: GES
Alhambram Wrote: Flipper
pindicator Wrote: Gold Ergo Sum
Rowain Wrote: Isaac
novice Wrote: Isaac
WarriorKnight Wrote: Flipper
pindicator Wrote: Gregory House
Cyneheard Wrote: Flipper
pindicator Wrote: Gold Ergo Sum
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Flipper
AdrienIer Wrote: Homer Simpson
Commodore Wrote: Uncle Iroh
Bobchillingworth Wrote: Carrie Mathison
Lewwyn Wrote: Adrien
Cyneheard Wrote: Adrien
Lewwyn Wrote: Statler & Waldorf
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(October 4th, 2020, 18:53)Lewwyn Wrote: You always read comm as scum no matter. The question is whether you are a blind villager who is right or wrong or scum using your bias as cover to vote in a way I can't get a good read on you.

That's just not true. My read this game is based solely on stuff in game. I've gotten much better about not letting my biases haunt me (you, Rowain, novice, etc.)
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
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Alright, Omar finally caught up.  Another longer post to come after re-reading notes and coalescing again.  

In the meantime, Omar got some questions for some players in this here game.

(October 4th, 2020, 15:18)Gaspar Wrote: If all of them are village, I would have expected CIA, Weeb Fox or Meiz to die as they are highly active players who had little to no suspicion on day 1.  

So Doc, since none of them died, does that mean you suspect one or more of them to be a villain?  If so, Omar, all ears, because in post 608, they were your top three most likely to be town.

(October 4th, 2020, 17:55)WarriorKnight Wrote: Slight Town lean:

alhambram - More quiet then I would like, but I do like his posts since the beginning of Day 2 (including a crosspost right now). 

Can you clarify for Omar what you like in Alham's posts?
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I'll join you on WarriorKnight, Lewwyn. He was suspicious yesterday with his last post of day 1, and I don't like how he stoked Meiz's attacks on me day 1, then decided to latch on with a "you've got me convinced" to Meiz. As if he didn't want the blame when I flipped.

I don't know if this is a WarriorKnight thing in every game, but he justifies leaving his vote where it is a lot. He did that multiple times on Lewwyn day 1, and then with me at the end of the day. Now he's doing it on Commodore.

Despite saying I was scummy overnight we haven't seen him poke or prod me at all, and like you said today he still has me in his scum camp. He's only sitting on Commodore, which fits my earlier lazy-scum theory.
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Meiz, I haven't gotten any further on you but I don't think I have to unless you really want me dig more. I like Commodore's theory on you: great scum or town-being-used, and I also lean town-being-used. I think you're letting your first impression rule what you see for evidence. Gotta let yourself re-evaluate throughout the game.
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(October 4th, 2020, 14:35)Rowain Wrote: Comment on GES big post:
After parsing through all the names I find nothing to disagree with. All in all a move towards townness for me.


Any other people commenting? Especially those voting GES currently. Additional Meiz, novice, Gaspar?  

@George  GES promised a big post several hours ago. And more or less has delieverd one concerning Day 1. I hope a day2 post will follow

I don't have much to comment on his play yet. I believe he has the role. Writing the post is huge effort and no straight alarm bells from the content. But no clear signs of which way he prefers to lynch in the end, which info I find more useful. I wonder if he will cast a vote before deadline where targets are already set and he can't affect the lynch, or will need/get to chosoe from the couple of options. So I will just have to patiently wait for his followup psots while repeating my wish to get more instant thoughts from his as well.
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(October 4th, 2020, 22:24)pindicator Wrote: Meiz, I haven't gotten any further on you but I don't think I have to unless you really want me dig more.  I like Commodore's theory on you: great scum or town-being-used, and I also lean town-being-used.  I think you're letting your first impression rule what you see for evidence.  Gotta let yourself re-evaluate throughout the game.

We shall see. The reads I've made on players (post before start of d2) are my genuine view on who's scum or town. Commodore's read on the players seems quite opposite to mine. I will rather trust my own judgement for now, see how he flips and then review how his role would affect your alignment. I haven't seen much reasons to start trusting his or yours reads over my own just yet.
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(October 4th, 2020, 17:39)Alhambram Wrote: Cynehard (After his post #641 where he raises arguments why he voted for Commodore and encouragement to pressure others, no other analysis about others. I don't want accuse Cynehard of tunneling here, otherwise I get complained by Meiz again for using too strong accusations like in WW 47, but I like to hear more thoughts about others than Commodore from Cynehard).
C'mon. WW47 was one specific read you made that I did not see as warranted to. Yet you were even right of that read in the end. Don't let anything hold back on giving out reads. But of course if I think something is fishy, I will comment on it.
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(October 4th, 2020, 18:22)Lewwyn Wrote: You don't mention Pindi at all in your initial vote and statement of suspicions here. GES posts a pretty good defense and even claims tracker. You gotta drop him from the wolf lists. So Pindi makes a reappearance, but you say sticking with the day one read? and you brush off his posting today. Very lazy wolf. Today pindi has posted a lot and much of it HAS been productive, but you are disregarding that entirely. Why wouldn't pindi try to scum hunt today if he is actually a villager? Instead you characterize it as distracting and trying to get the heat off. How is posting more and discussing possibilities distracting? He's literally doing what we asked him. Scumhunt.
As far as I can see, Pind has done a long investigation work on me & Gaspar at the time of your post here. He also presented his theory of expected scum behavior and then started to look for persons fitting that pattern (backwards hunting as you called yourself), but was there any results on that? You don't think that would fit as a potential scum play providing content to the game?
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