WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Gaspar]

As best I can tell we're at two coalitions here - the Commodore is scum coalition and the Meiz and Gaspar have been up my ass so I'm mad at them coalition. Can we try taking a little emotion out of it?

[Gaspar]

And Lewwyn, I'm guessing Adrien is town for you despite what I point above?

Adrien is town for Lewwyn because he's confirmation bias-ing himself into being right about me and WK, nothing more.

[Alhambram]

Just arrived here, checking posts since #724 now.

[Lewwyn]

You keep saying I’m lazy but I’m actually thinking very hard. You’re the one who’s basically stuck with commodore for the whole game.

I think Warriorknight has the best chance, Adrien.

You might be thinking your ass off, but your play is lazy.  Let's see something in this thread that actually shows some work, other than trying to reverse engineer the night kill and hotshotting to half the village.

Like, I'm all for investigating targets of dead players - scum absolutely take that into account.  But what's different this game is that 1. We don't know anything about Gazglum 2. I was a pretty ballsy nightkill as I was pretty well looked at as towny so I would have been a far more likely protection than Gaz was this game and 3. I had already been proven to hit scum when I died.  My footprint was also much larger.  Even with all of that, I'm still for investigating his reads (i.e GES and me, though I'd rather you just accepted I'm a benevolent force for all that is good and right in the world.)

Explain how it’s lazy?? I mean I feel like I’m doing a ton of work all day moving around investigating different people and trying to organize the best lynch. Hotshotting seems like a weird characterization considering I’ve had a lot of suspicion of WK for day 1. See Gaspar this is the type of mischaracterization of what I’m doing that makes me think I’m exactly right in what I’m doing going after WK and investigating you.

[pindicator]

As best I can tell we're at two coalitions here - the Commodore is scum coalition and the Meiz and Gaspar have been up my ass so I'm mad at them coalition.  Can we try taking a little emotion out of it?

Way to make a straw man to deflate cases on actual scum hunting. This is awful

[Lewwyn]

And Lewwyn, I'm guessing Adrien is town for you despite what I point above?

Feels perfectly normal to me to have villagers swing their opinions more easily. Villagers don’t have any information but their own. If you are truly scum hunting you have to be willing to open your mind to different possibilities and roll with the punches. You have to make coalitions with people you don’t quite trust in order to get ANYTHING done.

[pindicator]

Yeah, Meiz is upsetting. But tying my emotion towards him to my cases which have nothing at all to do with him? Scummy by you Gaspar. Why not look at Warriorknight for its own merits?

[Meiz]

As best I can tell we're at two coalitions here - the Commodore is scum coalition and the Meiz and Gaspar have been up my ass so I'm mad at them coalition.  Can we try taking a little emotion out of it?

Way to make a straw man to deflate cases on actual scum hunting. This is awful

But this is exactly what you've been doing all day Pind on me. I've tried to be polite and not comment too much about it.

[AdrienIer]

Adrien, did I miss you responding to this post? https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid753703

I think you're right and I didn't. There are many things you can gain from making a train start : you can see how serious the person driving the train is, you can see if his arguments are worth something (sometimes you're the only one to think they make sense), you leave a trail for later analysis if he ends up wolf (did someone follow him blindly, or made sure to avoid interacting with his push etc), you tempt wolves with a vote shift that might make them seem like they're doing something but that might be picked up later, you put pressure on someone who might blunder if he's really a wolf, etc... There may be more but at the top of my head that's all I have.

[Jabbz]

May have been answered but I'm still catching up. What did you do last night Commo, looks like last chance to tell us here.