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(October 6th, 2020, 11:35)novice Wrote: (October 6th, 2020, 11:28)Lewwyn Wrote: I believe Kaiser, WK and Adrien are dead.
Kaiser is dead? Did you poison him?
Rowain, AdrienIer was not a bad target for your vig shot, but why not Pindicator or Lewwyn?
I believe Kaiser's story. WK and Adrien are dead. I was running through my suspect lest and I used a comma where I should have used a period.
Why are you voting for Rowain? He called a vig shot, the vig target did die and no one has claimed otherwise, I don't believe him to be a SK or that there is a SK in game because of the traitor role, so occam's razor says Rowain is innocent and a vig.
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Meiz Gaspar why are you not dead yet?
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:44)Lewwyn Wrote: So tell me people, why did WK bite it? Was it because it proves I was wrong about him? Was it because he suspected me and therefore I wanted to get rid of him so he wouldn't vote for me ergo framing me? Was it because he's lower profile and this let's all the high profile guys stay alive? Why not Meiz, Gaspar or novice? It doesn't make sense to me not to hit someone who's towniness seems to be commonly believed. They didn't go after GES who is a tracker. So... is he a tracker? Motion detector seems a lot like that...
GES who did you track last night?
Or.... was it because he was the running candidate next to Commodore?
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:48)Lewwyn Wrote: Meiz Gaspar why are you not dead yet?
I'm already dead, what more do you want?
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Some thoughts while I process all the stuff that just happened...
- I don't like Weeb Fox's game at all, and I think it fits with a scum game. In 46 he was super hyper active. He rolls scum here so decides to go with a more traditional game. He gets a ton of shit for it so he decides he needs to start driving the bus. But while it has all the same beats as his game in 46, it lacks the same conviction. There's yelling and there's yelling with purpose. This game has been all noise. Forget how right/wrong he's been and just listen to cadence. Its wrong. But I'm not going to spend 48 hours arguing with Weeb Fox. I will be listening to him with great interest, though.
- pindicator sounds like himself overnight, but again, the self-pity stuff is just a common scum play. And I STILL think Commodore hung Thrawn to save him.
- I think there were scum on both sides of the vote though, its too facile to clear all the Commodore voters, especially with so many of them. I would look in particular hard at late Commodore voters after we investigate the WK voters. This means Jabbz, GES and Kaiser. Rowain mostly gets to slide because it was evident all along he would swap back to Commodore. Basically I give Meiz, novice and Rowain full credit for the Commodore lynch. Everyone else gets partial or none.
- Kaiser's claim seems easy to fake and in fact even if legit seems like a scum role - kill a guy, take his identity, get his powers? IDK, but it certainly doesn't clear him.
- I'm skeptical of anyone who wasn't a likely night kill posting WoT overnight. Its such an easy play. FOS Alhambram, Pindicator, Lewwyn, Kaiser.
- Also not sure why anyone is role-claiming right now? There's still too many of us alive and if I were scum the thing I'd be most wary of us the fact that there's more roles than normal out there.
After all that, I'm gonna start with Cyneheard. I thought Weeb Fox's WK case was pretty weak by his standards and I know why pindicator was on it and the other two are dead. Cyne, what did you find so convincing, why was Commodore not scum in your eyes and uh, what are your thoughts on some other players, since you also have a pretty small footprint.
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:49)Gaspar Wrote: Some thoughts while I process all the stuff that just happened...
- I don't like Weeb Fox's game at all, and I think it fits with a scum game. In 46 he was super hyper active. He rolls scum here so decides to go with a more traditional game. He gets a ton of shit for it so he decides he needs to start driving the bus. But while it has all the same beats as his game in 46, it lacks the same conviction. There's yelling and there's yelling with purpose. This game has been all noise. Forget how right/wrong he's been and just listen to cadence. Its wrong. But I'm not going to spend 48 hours arguing with Weeb Fox. I will be listening to him with great interest, though.
For the record that is silly. I have plenty of the same conviction that's why everyone is suspicious of me lol
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:30)pindicator Wrote: While I take you up on that tea offer, how possible is it that Comm was bussed hard day 2?
Gaspar, your thoughts on this too please
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:48)Meiz Wrote: (October 6th, 2020, 11:44)Lewwyn Wrote: So tell me people, why did WK bite it? Was it because it proves I was wrong about him? Was it because he suspected me and therefore I wanted to get rid of him so he wouldn't vote for me ergo framing me? Was it because he's lower profile and this let's all the high profile guys stay alive? Why not Meiz, Gaspar or novice? It doesn't make sense to me not to hit someone who's towniness seems to be commonly believed. They didn't go after GES who is a tracker. So... is he a tracker? Motion detector seems a lot like that...
GES who did you track last night?
Or.... was it because he was the running candidate next to Commodore?
Explain that line of thought.
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:48)Lewwyn Wrote: Meiz Gaspar why are you not dead yet?
Uh, I don't know, you tell me, why didn't you kill one of us?
FWIW, I expected Meiz or novice to die. I did not expect to die because I've gotten a fair amount of suspicion all game.
I'd guess that if I were a protection role, I'd have protected Meiz, so maybe that's what the scum thought.
There's probably a good thinkpiece in trying to tie together the two night kills. I'm not going to write it though.
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:35)novice Wrote: (October 6th, 2020, 11:28)Lewwyn Wrote: I believe Kaiser, WK and Adrien are dead.
Kaiser is dead? Did you poison him?
Rowain, AdrienIer was not a bad target for your vig shot, but why not Pindicator or Lewwyn?
About Lewwyn 2 reasons
Shooting Lewwyn would rob the town of todays discussion. His defending and who jumps where and when will prove alot more informative then trying to lynch Adrien.
But far more importantly: No matter if Lewwyn is town or scum I thought it well possible that scum has a redirector role like in WW46 and might redirect any action from Lewwyn to for example Meiz.
About pindicator: Honestly he was equally high on my list. ( I even considered shooting one of pindi, commodore and Kaiser on Night 1 but in the end decided it better to hold my fire and see how day 2 plays out.) This night I decided to take the shot. I did a lot of rereading I still don't like Adriens switch to thrawn with the expression he had not realized that a thrawn-train had started when in reality said train had exactly 3 votes 2 of which had been on for some time already. All in all I went with whom I voted for on Day 2.
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