WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Alhambram]

Also I didn't know that Sunrise were going reveal us.

[Lewwyn]

Also I didn't know that Sunrise were going reveal us.

Okay got it.

[pindicator]

I should add, that while I'm certain there are scum on Commodore, a full on bussing makes no sense because 1. Commodore had a very good role and 2. Scum already lost their traitor on D1, the only way the scum are brazen enough to bus before they've gotten even one true mislynch is a scenario where there are 5+ scum and the only scenario where that works is one where we have like 2 seers, 2 doctors and a bunch more power and I'm not seeing that.

So long story short:  scum on Commodore - yes; bus on Commodore - no.

I'll give my thoughts here: I think with all the discussion coming night 1 about how thrawn didn't clear anybody there was someone on Commodore early. There was lots of discussion about Commodore saving me with a thrawn vote instead of voting for me. Rowain makes that possibility as I put in last night. But the person who's play I keep coming back to is Meiz. He's not really looking around for a second straight day, he's just parking on Lewwyn. Yes, I know - early in the day. But it's the mindset he's putting out there is very intransigent. And it's now the second day in a row. We'll see occasional one-off questions, but no digging, no cases. This seems very different to me than how he played in 46. He was more active there. Less sure of himself. Here he seems spammy to me.

At the same time, I know I have some ... emotional clouding ... regarding Meiz. So I think it best if someone else I trust as towny looks into him, in addition to me.

With Lewwyn, maybe he's just got me for a sucker. But for the same reason my gut is telling me he is town. He's still looking, he's making active cases. Perhaps it's just something as simple as I identify better with Lewwyn's playstyle than I do Meiz's? I do think the night kills reflect that we have some very clever wolves.

I could very well vote for Cyneheard today. I want to reread him. And Meiz ... again. Did I already say I lost my notes?

[Gaspar]

I mean I'll let Meiz defend himself but he's felt like Meiz to me since the inital phase ended. I think this because he and I tend to hunt similarly - poke until you've got one, then hang on and don't let go once you do.

I don't currently feel like I got one - but I feel very secure that I'm looking in the right places.

I think its unlikely that I vote for a Commodore voter today but certainly not certain. I'd rather dig into the WK voters first, however.

[Gold Ergo Sum]

The focus on Bee-Boy and Flip seems to be pulling away from looking at other possible villains.  Even if Bee-Boy and Flip turn out villains, unless we still river the backdoor flush draw by flipping a villainous Weeb Fox next, there would be two more Barksdales that gotta get got.  We could just as easily be looking for those now.

Are you saying there are 5 scum in total? How would you know that?

Omar forgot to respond to this. That was one of my assumptions I said I was operating under in an earlier post. Seems the assumption most of us operating on, at least that is Omar's impression.

GES who did you track last night?

Not sure if Omar should say one way or the other with a limited use ability. Especially in response to a query by Weeb Fox. Since Duo Puppet is confirmed village, I would be willing to say if he thinks it best.

Omar highly likely to vote Weeb Fox for reasons discussed "immoderately" by others. That said, the Duo Puppet kill does bug Omar. Would villain Weeb Fox make that kill and advertise that he ran a train on a villager? As someone pointed out before (Robot?), Flip's role-read seems to confirm that villains did not know Q was a traitor. Assuming that, it would mean Weeb Fox hard-trained what he thought was a villager D1, then did the same to Duo Puppet, then advertises in neon that Duo was village with the nightkill. Either Weeb Fox playing some they know, that I know, that they know game, which is definitely possible, or Duo Puppet got killed to make Weeb Fox look even worse. Omar been out the game for so long, he leave it to others to say the most likely way for a villain Weeb Fox to carry that.

It 9-5 time for Omar, but some revised thinking is needed, since Omar thought Swanson's play was clear villainy. Omar joke at Old Tea Man, but he might have pulled the same trigger too.

[novice]

But the person who's play I keep coming back to is Meiz.  He's not really looking around for a second straight day, he's just parking on Lewwyn.  Yes, I know - early in the day.  But it's the mindset he's putting out there is very intransigent.  And it's now the second day in a row.  We'll see occasional one-off questions, but no digging, no cases.  This seems very different to me than how he played in 46.  He was more active there.  Less sure of himself.  Here he seems spammy to me.

So are his occasional one-off questions spam and not digging? Or what is it that is spam?

[pindicator]

I'd rather dig into the WK voters first, however.

Yeah, I think that's likely good hunting grounds too.

[pindicator]

But the person who's play I keep coming back to is Meiz.  He's not really looking around for a second straight day, he's just parking on Lewwyn.  Yes, I know - early in the day.  But it's the mindset he's putting out there is very intransigent.  And it's now the second day in a row.  We'll see occasional one-off questions, but no digging, no cases.  This seems very different to me than how he played in 46.  He was more active there.  Less sure of himself.  Here he seems spammy to me.

So are his occasional one-off questions spam and not digging? Or what is it that is spam?

Well, I mean he's doing the one-off questions but there's rarely any follow through. Like take Gaspar. He plays similar style where he focuses on one target. But you can see that there are thoughts coming out more about other players and he's not solely thinking about one player even if his vote stays on that player. Like I get the impression the questions are leading Gaspar to further understanding. Like with your questions, too, Novice. (Not Noble, Not Noble, Not Noble.) But I don't get that impression with Meiz.

[AdrienIer]

Good luck town. At least I won't have to worry about my availability D3

[Meiz]

The focus on Bee-Boy and Flip seems to be pulling away from looking at other possible villains.  Even if Bee-Boy and Flip turn out villains, unless we still river the backdoor flush draw by flipping a villainous Weeb Fox next, there would be two more Barksdales that gotta get got.  We could just as easily be looking for those now.

Are you saying there are 5 scum in total? How would you know that?

Omar forgot to respond to this.  That was one of my assumptions I said I was operating under in an earlier post.  Seems the assumption most of us operating on, at least that is Omar's impression.  

novice, what do you think?