WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[novice]

The focus on Bee-Boy and Flip seems to be pulling away from looking at other possible villains.  Even if Bee-Boy and Flip turn out villains, unless we still river the backdoor flush draw by flipping a villainous Weeb Fox next, there would be two more Barksdales that gotta get got.  We could just as easily be looking for those now.

Are you saying there are 5 scum in total? How would you know that?

Omar forgot to respond to this.  That was one of my assumptions I said I was operating under in an earlier post.  Seems the assumption most of us operating on, at least that is Omar's impression.  

novice, what do you think?

I think there's 5 scum, when we include the traitor Q.

[Jabbz]

GG guys, looks like someone didn't like what you had done so far.

I'll need to check into their posts now to get a feel for who they liked and didn't. Am I right rowain is claiming to have vig'd adrien? Why was there no action by him on n1, when he was convinced of his next two targets? A lack of information, or a lack of motivation?

[BRickAstley]

General Service Announcement: QuickTopic has gone down and I have no knowledge of when it will go back up. I am working with anyone who was using QuickTopic to secure an alternate, temporary means of communication.

[sunrise089]

Question for you. Did Allhambram agree with you to reveal you guys are neighbors? Did he know you were going to reveal both of you today?

He did not. He and I both briefly discussed breadcrumbing the relationship but he hasn't been able to be super active and so I couldn't think of a good way to do that that wasn't either really obvious or made one or both of us look scummy since it would look like I was dancing around his own inactivity.

We hadn't said anything on our Quicktopic for a day or so and so I didn't check it until shortly before deadline. I saw his thoughts on the voting records and encouraged him to post it in thread, and then moved back here to try to get something out before the deadline myself.

Why are you voting for Rowain? He called a vig shot, the vig target did die and no one has claimed otherwise, I don't believe him to be a SK or that there is a SK in game because of the traitor role, so occam's razor says Rowain is innocent and a vig.

Sure, but given Adrien's flip it's not certain. There are other roles which can make a person die at night It was absolutely IMHO a solid shot but given Roawin had been the driver of "Commodore then Pindicator if the former was scum" I think it's worth hearing more about the thought process.

Meiz Gaspar why are you not dead yet?

Meiz to me is most likely to receive protection and I don't think it's unheard of for wolves to avoid those folks. My own Gaspar feelings are of course complicated

• Also not sure why anyone is role-claiming right now?  There's still too many of us alive and if I were scum the thing I'd be most wary of us the fact that there's more roles than normal out there.
  

Gaspar, I considered doing so even on N1. The Mafiascum listing for neighbor says 3-people neighborhoods usually have one scum. This is a reduced power game (except Q lol) so I get why I didn't get to be a Mason, and Neighbor works well for flavor reasons (Homer for obvious reasions, Mr Peanutbutter because he's friendly to everyone). But I kept having visions of dying and then people wondering who the other neighbor(s) was/were and felt I needed to have that info out there.

[Meiz]

But the person who's play I keep coming back to is Meiz.  He's not really looking around for a second straight day, he's just parking on Lewwyn.  Yes, I know - early in the day.  But it's the mindset he's putting out there is very intransigent.  And it's now the second day in a row.  We'll see occasional one-off questions, but no digging, no cases.  This seems very different to me than how he played in 46.  He was more active there.  Less sure of himself.  Here he seems spammy to me.

So are his occasional one-off questions spam and not digging? Or what is it that is spam?

Well, I mean he's doing the one-off questions but there's rarely any follow through.  Like take Gaspar.  He plays similar style where he focuses on one target.  But you can see that there are thoughts coming out more about other players and he's not solely thinking about one player even if his vote stays on that player.  Like I get the impression the questions are leading Gaspar to further understanding.  Like with your questions, too, Novice.  (Not Noble, Not Noble, Not Noble.)  But I don't get that impression with Meiz.

What questions are we talking about? I often ask someones take on a specific player if I feel like they are connected, but haven't posted straight opinion of each other. So I wan't to find out their current opinion, and additionally see how well that player is on top of the gamestate and reads. This helps me personally to get a better read on that player.

No cases? I think I've posted my latest take just a moment ago before start of this day.

Yes, I'm well aware that my posts often come off as overconfident, and that happens from game to another. I liek to keep my posts focused on the players who I find most suspicious, and defend players who feel like are going to be mislynched.

[Jabbz]

I laid off last night with this question, but I'll ask it now and hope no one reads this as me being indignant. What did I say that was factually incorrect before the vote? I'm less concerned with being seen as scummy than other things right now, but it would help me going forward.

[pindicator]

I'm not going to re-read Meiz. I'm going to leave him for other people as I don't trust my gut right now. Meiz, I think it is that same overconfidence in your posts that has all my internal alarm bells going. Simplest answer is you're town and I need to stick to that, even though I feel a bit more burned/paranoid after Commodore.

[Rowain]

GG guys, looks like someone didn't like what you had done so far.

I'll need to check into their posts now to get a feel for who they liked and didn't. Am I right rowain is claiming to have vig'd adrien? Why was there no action by him on n1, when he was convinced of his next two targets? A lack of information, or a lack of motivation?

Yes I viged Adrien (as posted close to dl)

I even considered shooting one of pindi, commodore and Kaiser on Night 1 but in the end decided it better to hold my fire and see how day 2 plays out.

[Alhambram]

@Sunrise, I think that our different timezones and fact that I always has to go to work early after sleep without checking computer (resulting in roughly 18 hours inactivity) has been problematic for acitivity in quicktopic.

Now everyone knows that we are neighbors by your reveal, what's done is done. To be honest I also did worry about you for night 2, got a bad feeling, hence leaving breadcrumbs at post #970.

[Rowain]

Sure, but given Adrien's flip it's not certain. There are other roles which can make a person die at night It was absolutely IMHO a solid shot but given Roawin had been the driver of "Commodore then Pindicator if the former was scum" I think it's worth hearing more about the thought process.

About pindicator: Honestly he was equally high on my list. ( I even considered shooting one of pindi, commodore and Kaiser on Night 1 but in the end decided it better to hold my fire and see how day 2 plays out.) This night I decided to take the shot. I did a lot of rereading I still don't like Adriens switch to thrawn with the expression he had not realized that a thrawn-train had started when in reality said train had exactly 3 votes 2 of which had been on for some time already. All in all I went with whom I voted for on Day 2.