WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[Meiz]

I laid off last night with this question, but I'll ask it now and hope no one reads this as me being indignant. What did I say that was factually incorrect before the vote? I'm less concerned with being seen as scummy than other things right now, but it would help me going forward.

Oh look another Jabbz factual error

What is it that I supposedly was wrong about this time sunrise?

See 903. But I have to look to see if scum Commodore was actually right about that. So TBD

Ok. So you're calling me out for a factual error. Lets look a whats there. In 390 Commo says he didn't vote for pindicator. That is a clear declarative sentence. It is contradicted by his vote in 282. I'm not seeing any room there for a factual error.

I see he responded with this:

I'm as caught up as I'm going to be, though it required some skimming.
I did a pretty solid readthrough of Commo, and I'm getting a reasonable set of scum leans. I feel he played the "beeboy" stuff out for a great deal of content without any real substance. 

I don't like this, though i suppose it's possible I'm misreading. However here he votes for pindi

EEE-*chirup* e'Eeeee ttickakakakatttata Eeeeee eee.
<Pindicator until I complete my reread. Were I a human I'd have meetings first though.

And then turns around saying he didn't vote for pindi? I'm very confused, and he never addresses this again.

Iiiichirr tiiiii *chirup* kakakakakakakaka! 
<My inability to parse GES' post was him refering to me voting for bee-boy, who was...Pindicator? I don't know! I didn't vote for Pindicator!>

Kakakakakakaka EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE E! E! E!
<Jabbz' vote seems to be because I get counted as voting twice thank to the translation gimmick need!>

Chiiiiii, titteeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE e'reeee EEEEyiii chi yiiii.
<Pindicator is a null read thus far, while Q seems to be varrible but I *really* want that Lewwyn read.>

Jumps on thrawn last minute, I assume outa self preservation.

Night is very low effort. Talks about himself being mislynched, still expresses confusion of GES's posts, and drops a vote on him at night, then again first thing in the day, but doesn't push anywhere else with significance once he drops that. and spends rest of time defending himself.

I get wanting to preserve yourself, and I appreciate letting us know what you did last night, but I don't see anything productive in the realm of scum hunting. I'm fully aware of the irony in saying that, but you're the one with his head on the block, not me.

There is a likely possibility that someone else could be more scummy at this point, but I feel reasonable in adding my name to the list of those voting for Commodore.

EEEE keeer. 
<You are misreading. I was talking about not voting Pin at the time when GES was talking, not earlier or later. IF I HANG FOR THIS MISREAD I WILL HAUNT YOUR BEACH VACTIONS FOREVER.>

I just went back and read through it again, and I see nothing that implies in any way he was only talking about that specific point in time. The statement as it reads is false. Not sure why anyone would have an issue with me calling out something false that is indeed... false.

The saga of the dolphin and the gangster who mixed Skeletor and the BEE BOY started from this post, https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid752548
And it refers to GES talking how Gaspar switched his vote to me after Commodore had also done that, yet calling me as Pindicator' character by mistake.

[Alhambram]

Sigh, my head is tolling right now. But at least I have make a start somewhere:

Since I did get good vibe of Cyneheard at end of day 2 despite not voting for Commodore due him calling off AdrienIer who I thought being a scum back then.
But now with AdrienIer being townie and little content form Cyneheard past hours.
I asks Cyneheard what do he think about situation now.

I think that I stop for today and tomorrow after work another rounds of reading and commenting and possible voting someone else.

[Gaspar]

Highlighting this part. Kaiser's reasoning for revealing his power is because he thinks that scum team might have someone who has similar power.
Also he claim gained this power day 2 soon Gazglum died.

I think that I am starting become extremely very paranoid. IF Kaiser is right, then it would mean someone might gained Thrawn's powers at night 1.
IF that person used posion power at night 1, then it lights different shed upon second death of night 2.

I don't know what to think about it, probably I am reading too much into player powers. Maybe I should forget it and stick to normal player reading instead role reading.

I also liked Kaiser's take of his own gamestyle not working out, and planning to change that. That's one part of his game that I've identified, coming too late behind from the game events & his reads. So I do like that he has recognized the issue himself and planned on changing the style. I think GES has the same type of issue, which is why I've prompted him couple of times to start contributing more on the recent events.

Yeah I agree with Meiz's latest spam.

Alhambram looks like he's trying earnestly, which is good.

But I'm surprised folks are so sanguine about the Kaiser claim. Like I said, it reads more like scum power than town power to me. Not that I want to get into metagaming but it just seems fishy. Also, why claim overnight, surely he was in no danger of being night-killed as he was absent for all of Day 2 and on top of that, had a fair amount of suspicion. IDK, just saying I'm FAR from clearing him.

The saga of the dolphin and the gangster who mixed Skeletor and the BEE BOY started from this post, https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid752548
And it refers to GES talking how Gaspar switched his vote to me after Commodore had also done that, yet calling me as Pindicator' character by mistake.

If this ends up with me having to justify my vote on Meiz early D1 again I'm gonna pop some vicodin and turn me back to the old me. Just sayin'.

[Gaspar]

But Lew, Cyne, and Kaiser are all suspicious as well!  Also, though it got ZERO TRACTION before, since Commodore has now been CONFIRMED FOR SCUM, if anyone wants thinks my theory of Omar / Commodore "megapost" collusion wasn't COMPLETELY INSANE then maybe it's worth revisiting!

I still think it pretty clear that GES had telegraphed a big post incoming and also, I think it weird the way you keep bringing it up.

[Cyneheard]

Well this should be an interesting Day 3.

Basically, I haven't had the emotional energy to fully engage with this properly/adjust my play, and for that I apologize. It felt weird that I was skating through these days so easily, but it also meant I didn't have to work as hard. Also hadn't had my instincts proven super right or wrong yet (obviously both WK and Adrien were hitting my scumdar), so that hasn't been good either. I'd be disappointed in the rest of the town if I wasn't under significant scrutiny today.

It doesn't help that I don't remember the last time I rolled village - WW46 was obviously a disaster of a wolf game, and the One Night Werewolf games years ago were where:
1) Lewwyn and I started as wolves, but Lewwyn realized his card had been swapped so he got me killed. Basically nothing I could do there.
2) I robbed Rowain, ended up as the Tanner, and was able to cause JUST enough chaos (with some luck I think) to get myself hanged.

Roleclaim:
3-Shot Watcher.

Unfortunately neither of the people I watched had anyone visit them (Sunrise N1, GES N2), so there's not much I can use for that to clear me.

If we end up hanging me, do NOT use that as clearance for people playing similarly to me (semi-lurking, or the WK voters are the heuristics I'm mostly referring to here I think).

This sequence at the end of day 2 feels super weird to me:

@cynheard you going to sit on adrien? Come on over the waters warmer...

Sure, this seemed reasonable enough - especially after his Day 1 pleading that didn't convince me on thrawn.

WarriorKnight - a WK reread makes me more skeptical of him than of Comm right now. He's got the one post of reads and other than that nothing.

@Lewwyn - I absolutely don't get why you're leaning village for Adrien.

@Gaspar - confirmation bias is setting in a lot of us right now, I've been trying to test/reevaluate that myself.

I feel like you’ve been more silent than I want out of you and you pop up at opportune moments. But I’m surprised you voted for warriorknight.

But then after I follow Lewwyn, Lewwyn was asking me to join him on WK, and then is surprised that I actually follow through???

That just struck me as super strange - like he's surprised a villager is playing just like Wolf Lewwyn. This feels like an Among Us 50/50 situation, but confirmations are on.

I'm going to take some time thinking/working through the rest of us, but this seemed like a good place to start.

[Rowain]

-Rowain, are you one shot vig or do you have more shots? I understand if you don't want answer this.

1-shot

[WarriorKnight]

Statler: Goodnight.

Waldorf: So long.



Both: Oh no!

Just as planned, I managed to get full use out of my ability. Only 1 more thing left for me to do before I am fully satisfied with this game, dragging Lewwyn into the lurker thread with me at the end of the day.

To all Town: As I cannot vote, I urge all of to vote Lewwyn today. pindicator is also an acceptable lynch, although for the sake of all of your mental health I highly suggest getting rid of Lewwyn first. Don't waste your time today trying to figure out why Cyneheard jumped ship to me during Day 2 voting or why Rowain shot a villager (to his credit, I also though that was a fine shot), there will plenty of time to figure that out after today. For my part I will ensure to get as much heckling in as possible to keep your spirits up as Lewwyn will undoubtedly drag them down defending himself kicking and screaming. I ask that you honor my sacrifice last night by voting for scum Lewwyn.

Lewwyn: I don't have a gif of 2 old puppet men suplexing a weeb fox into the depths of hell the lurker thread, but this is the next best thing:



Any attempt by Lewwyn to defend himself will be met with swift heckling, and I have lots of material to get through before the end of the day. Any attempt by Lewwyn not to defend himself will also result in swift heckling, also let's be honest, how likely is that to happen?

WK, you have to choose which half of your duo is left.

I refuse.

[Rowain]

....

WK thank you for making the thread funny .

[Gaspar]

WK narrowly edging GES for game MVP.

[Alhambram]

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WK thank you for making the thread funny .

 
I was checking thread one more time before going to bed and noticed WK's post. People in room next me asked me why did I laugh out loud.