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Sorry Lewwyn, you're just too good as town to lynch WarriorKnight over Commodore on D2. And you're too good as scum to absolve yourself via good case building today.
And your case on Pindicator is excellent. Glad you've come around on him.
I have to run.
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@novice - is Pindicator your second strongest lean?
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(October 6th, 2020, 11:52)Lewwyn Wrote: For the record that is silly. I have plenty of the same conviction that's why everyone is suspicious of me lol
Statler: Well that was different.
Waldorf: I should say so. So many of Lewwyn's posts are long and boring.
Statler: Yes, he finally managed one short and boring!
Waldorf: Does that mean they are getting better or worse?
Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!
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Oh man I just noticed the updated avatar.
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(October 6th, 2020, 10:59)Lewwyn Wrote: To start with, I am a villager, I am not omniscient, and as such I can be wrong.
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..wouldn't it be crazy if I was still right though? WK Adrien and Comm all being scum buddies and all up on the block at the same time. I think its highly implausible, but I'm starting think it might not be...
Waldorf: Poor wolf, lost his nose.
Statler: Mmm, how will he smell without it?
Waldorf: Same as always!
Both: TERRIBLE! Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!
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(October 7th, 2020, 01:54)Meiz Wrote: Who's Kardashian ?
Cardassian is the race of Garak (Cyneheard)
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Oh my. I assumed I would be sticking to just Lewwyn posts with the occasional pindicator, but I can't let this one go:
(October 6th, 2020, 23:33)Gaspar Wrote: Weeb Fox
If I'm to be honest, I like his play today the most. He has as good a manner as you can have when you're the obvious target. It sounds like he's trying earnestly. I guess most to the point, he sounds like himself. The thing with Weeb Fox though, is that he likes rolling scum as much as he likes rolling town. So I don't know that he's being a happy warrior is much of a tell. But still, I think he's trying to hunt scum. The gnawing voice in the back of my head also says that he knows the best way to get of the block is to do this. I don't know, this is why I ignore Weeb Fox early normally - I need more data to be sure on him. Plus he really knows how to buddy me. And of course, there's all the stuff from previous days that I need to consider but am faithfully not considering here.
Pindicator
Pindicator also sounds like he's trying. Now he's a bit more temperamental (pot, meet kettle) so its a bit easier to paint a lot of his efforts as simply trying to evade the hook and honestly, I do think a lot of his effort is trying to evade the hook. That said, he's been more engaged and if he is town, in his shoes I would also feel like I was played a patsy by the scum and I'd probably have a hard time not letting that color my reads. But again, if you dropped us into the game right here and I was asked to evaluate simply based on today, I'd say he sounds towny.
Cyneheard
Cyne I discussed above. The two posts I quoted felt very scummy. He's not fighting the noose very hard which makes him easy to lynch, but that is often scum behavior - if you can't win the with your words, suffocate them with your self-pity. Alliteration, always annoying.  Anyway, on the same rules, he's made the strongest case to be lynched so that's where I'm staying right now.
Statler: The legend of House will never die.
Waldorf: No, but it sure got wounded pretty badly with this post.
Both: Do-ho-ho-ho-hoh!
#VoteForScumLewwyn
That's enough for now, may add some more in a few hours.
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@ Jabbz
Why did you ask C if he has used his power on N1?
Why did you ask if someone targeted you?
What do you say concerning Lewwyns claim that he hid behind you on Day 1?
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One question:
If Lewwyn is scum why did he not push Adrien? for most of the time Adrien was the competitor for Commodore even leading the lynch 6 hours before deadline.
The last 6 hours:
Lynch votes T -6
5 votes: AdrienIer ( Cyneheard, GES,Bobchillingworth,Rowain,WarriorKnight)
4 votes: Commodore/Flipper (Meiz, Gaspar, Alhambram, ,sunrise089,)
3 votes: WarriorKnight (Lewwyn,pindicator,AdrienIer )
2 votes: Rowain/Uncle Iroh (Kaiser,Commodore)
1 votes: Kaiser/Isaac (, novice)
novice: Kaiser->Commodore,T-4, Adrien 5:5 (Commodore)
WK: AdrienIer -> Commodore, T-3,5, C leads 6:4 (Adrien)
~ T-2hours
Lewwyn and then pindicator bring Gaspar up both without a vote
Adrien: WK->Gaspar, T- 1,75, C leads 6:4 (Adrien)
Lewwyn: WK->Gaspar, T - 1,5, C leads 6:4 (Adrien) 16:20
Commodore: Rowain->WK, T -1,5, C leads 6:4 (Adrien) 16:22
Lewwyn: Gaspar->WK, T- 1,25, C leads 6:4 (Adrien)
Adrien: Gaspar-> WK , T - 1, C leads 6:4 (Adrien, WK)
Cyneheard: Adrien -> WK, T- 40min, C leads 6:5 (WK)
Jabbz: Commodore, T -7 min, C leads 7:5 (WK)
Kaiser: Rowain->Adrien, T -6m, C leads 7:5 (WK)
GES: Adrien->Commodore, T 5m, C leads 8:5 (WK)
Rowain: Adrien->Commodore, T -1m, C leads 9:5(WK)
Kaiser: Adrien->Commodore, T-0, C wins 10:5 (WK)
Even C stayed away from Adrien. Why nightkill WK? Somehow those actions read more and more as if scum wanted Commodore lynched and then continue to lynch WK-voters.
as already mentioned we had such a game before where scum happily lynched a wolf and then helped town to lynch all villagers not on said wolf and win the game. I have to look who was on the wolfteam then. There once was a google doc(?) where all the WW-games were listed with a short synopsis.
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(October 6th, 2020, 21:06)Gaspar Wrote: (October 6th, 2020, 20:30)Cyneheard Wrote: Meta assumption: I think it’s more likely we have 4 villains than 5. 5 + traitor sounds absolutely brutal for the village, especially with the traitor’s powers being pretty good.
I think I’ve made my Lewwyn feelings pretty clear.
Pind:
WK’s death note covers Pind pretty well. https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/show...#pid753979
Jabbz:
His vote Day 2 seems to be the key to making sure that Commodore hanged. If Lewwyn ends up town, very likely to re-evaluate Day 2, but “Lewwyn protecting his roleblocker scumbuddy twice” best fits this.
Kaiser:
So he had time, RL intervened, so now he doesn’t? His vote on Commodore (or his 5-minutes-earlier vote on Adrien) really doesn’t get much credit, as Commodore was clearly hanging. He's been methodically collecting information, which is great if the scum are messing up in predictable ways, but absolutely TERRIBLE if they're not. Too many Kaiser-style players means that a wolf bus is absolutely going to be way too effective, but I don't think the rest of us are as committed to the work to make that a meta problem. Likely villager.
Rowain:
Vig claim seems pretty confirmed to me. If he’s lying, then Kaiser’s hypothesis that the Wolves inherited the Traitor’s powers has to be true and they poisoned someone N1. But then - why WK OR Adrien? That doesn't make sense to me, especially since WK probably didn't make himself a high priority target until his Day 2/Night 2 (definitely kicking myself for not switching to Watching WK after that vote). So Rowain is about as confirmed as it gets. The odds of there being ZERO vigilantes is ~0, although it is possible that there are two if they’re both one-shot, so if someone else had a vigilante power they might not counterclaim (although I’d have thought N2 would’ve been a decent night to take a Vig shot). If Rowain is lying, we will have time to figure it out.
Bob:
If he keeps on living and hiding from the shadows, he’s going to start to shoot up my suspect list – this could be similar to Charriu in WW46 who was basically only found out by process of elimination. But inclined to lean villager who’s just not able to spend the time this game is requiring.
I don't have the brainspace to tackle a more complicated case like Gaspar right now.
This post is super scummy, though. Restates an obvious read, relies on someone else's read, tells three people who are likely swing votes that he thinks they're towny and then pushes some mild shade at a lurker... I mean, whew. Not that different really than the post that sounded scummy in 46 that eventually got us both killed.
To me this accusation is what seals the deal against Gaspar, besides the change of heart on Lew/pind.
Reiterating your earlier reads is not scummy. Neither is using someone else's read to agree with. I think the read of "tells three people who are likely swing votes that he thinks they're towny" is just painting Cyneheard on much badder light than is warranted of based on what he actually writes above. A strong agenda wolf agenda in play IMO.
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