WW48: Melllvar's Grand Competition!

[superdeath]

Dont all honda's come stock like that?

Hope everything is alright!

Ill be attempting to help keep track of the vote tally from now till deadline. ( while brick is away )

[sunrise089]

@Kaiser, 1,482 - you posted your Meiz bold thing 1 minute before the deadline. How would that disincentivize the wolves?

@Jabbz - your day is much better than earlier ones, but how does the Kaiser+Meiz interaction make sense if they’re both scum? Why would Meiz claim his ability was stolen? Do you think he just forgot to discuss that with Kaiser in advance?

@pindicator, 1413 - what do you mean there about protecting Meiz? Didn’t you protect Rowain?

@pindicator - you talked today about one reason you wanted to die before Lewwyn. I asked you about this late day 3 and you said you’d say the full reason post-game. I know there’s no vote pressure on you now but I don’t love you withholding part of that reason.

[sunrise089]

In general I’m surprised with Lewwyn dying for Gaspar’s head and several players starting Day 4 on Gaspar he has zero pressure here. I want to see how the Kaiser/Meiz situation plays out, I agree w/ many that everything about the Meiz power and loss are weird but also that scum Meiz has little reason to say he lost the power today except for a light attack on Rowain. I guess scum Meiz could have seen Kaiser’s bold and big-brained realized he had the opportunity to try to frame him when Kaiser says no result, and gotten lucky that Kaiser took it up to 11 with his claimed lying breadcrumb??

Anyways it’s super late and I’ve had a hell of a day. Aside from the Meiz role thing I’d rather lynch pindicator or Gaspar today but presumably we’ll get more clarity on the Kaiser situation.

Kaiser for now to keep pressure up for more of an explanation. Repeat yourself if you have to Kaiser, I promise I won’t always be this tired.

[Kaiser]

started at #813


Sorry guys, I had to drop low and was not able to invest the time I wanted due to my end of day1 behaviour and my wife being not to please about being late based on me browsing a forum. I have to admit that my take on this game is way to effort intensive but I have caught up to post 813 by now and will come back with some thoughts in the known manner. 

Just to address this here quickly @Rowain and @Novice. 
We were supposed to leave and I quickly finished #331 on the PC stating that I wanted to read up on pindi and comm as well as compare thrawns defense WW47.
My wife has been an understanding angel with angry eyes, so I was reading up on thrawn defense and a quick skim again of pindi on my phone when posting #401. 

Thrawns defense was different, he was not really hunting anymore but just defending looking for other people to provide him arguments to talk about. The pindi case remained shallow and he was not the only person no investing time into day1 so I decided for the thrawn vote, even though I could follow his defending arguments.

@Alhambram:
I did explain in #815 why it came to my doublevote on Q

I am surprised that so many people seem to think that this voting twice was such scummy behaviour. With thrawn, we already got one scum not being a participant of the wolf thread, I believe it higly unlikely that there would be a 2nd one that would be uncoached.
To be clear here, I read up as best as possible on pindicator using my phone and made sure that my vote was on thrawn as I was under time pressure when finishing #331.

[Rowain]

In general I’m surprised with Lewwyn dying for Gaspar’s head and several players starting Day 4 on Gaspar he has zero pressure here.

Well if this is your opinion why don't you pressure Gaspar?

[Kaiser]

Kaiser, what was your purpose in faking a Meiz breadcrumb?

My main purpose was to keep my last charge and to keep the wolves in the dark about it. I think using it is an educated guess with a good portion of luck involved and I wanted to increase the probability by keeping it until later.
I thought faking it on Meiz would have the additional benefit of potentially protecting him as well but Rowain correctly pointed out that this would not (or only barely if the wolves were very quick) work due to timing constraints.

[Kaiser]

GG novice.

My first instict thoughts: I like GE's post and put him as more town based on it.

Rowain has been converted? Surprised with his view of game.

Kaiser moves to RED with:

Personally I am more wary of Gaspar and Novice at the moment, I need to get a clearer look at their Day2 and Day3 voting in connection with their late switch on pindicator without further information.
Rowain needs a special mention here as well, as he remains on my suspect list, event though apparently everybody else seems fine with his play I am wavering between seeing good and valid arguments and feeling scuminess from the way he posts, buddies or reacts to certain game circumstances.

Where did I say I have to vote you today? I'm giving Gaspar credit for his D1, which you have ignored in your read.

I've just been informed by GM that my power has been ripped off, so I will be unable to proof anything. A nice power by the villains I suspect.

I really hope the timestamps are there. There was something weird here and I found it when Sunrise pointed out that GrandMaMeiz evil mini Masterplan could have been to frame me.

There were 8 minutes between these two posts according to timestamps and the best explanation in Meiz sense I have for it would be that he posted without checking his PMs first. While certainly possible, this would mean he was disregarding the rules of the game (as you are asked to check if you still live before posting game relevant information).
I could see myself doing that type of mistake, I doubt that Meiz would as he seems to be a very experienced player, in this game as well as in WW47.

His first post is within a minute of Bricks EoN result, I cannot judge his typing speed, but it is quick to come up with his response and I believe he did not check his PMs because he knew he was not going to be dead.
In any case I it is very weird that he came around with this statement of loss of power 8 minutes later, I believe this was either a quickly made up strategy for Day4 by the wolves or Brick forgot to send Meiz his PM on time.

@Brick_Astley
If that was an information delay coming from your side, I personally would prefer you making a public announcement here to clarify this

[Meiz]

I did post in the game before checking the PM first, my mistake on that.

[Rowain]

His first post is within a minute of Bricks EoN result, I cannot judge his typing speed, but it is quick to come up with his response and I believe he did not check his PMs because he knew he was not going to be dead.

According to the dateline (you can see it if you hit the view source button) he needed 93 seconds for his post.

[Meiz]

Death's are not informed by PM's as far as I know.

I wonder what my plan would have been on framing you?