October 11th, 2020, 08:18
Posts: 8,244
Threads: 30
Joined: Jun 2004
(October 11th, 2020, 08:10)Gaspar Wrote: For the entirety of the game, sunrise has wanted to lynch me but the only time he actually was willing to put his neck out for it was day one. I've given him a villager lean all game but I mean, take a stand my friend. Even if I don't like where it goes it just feels wrong to never be willing to champion your case.
He had a chance yesterday but decided to stay on pindi
October 11th, 2020, 08:19
Posts: 8,022
Threads: 37
Joined: Jan 2006
(October 11th, 2020, 08:13)Meiz Wrote: What do you think of my point on Kaiser? If you think I'm town, then what sense woudl it make for Kaiser to fake check me, while knowing that I would be targeted with a probably-scum-ability?
No, it doesn't make logical sense.
But like... if scum are highly coordinated, I think he would be talked out of such a move if he is scum.
If they're most playing solo, then... I think its something Kaiser himself would do because all I see from him is sowing confusion. Could that mean he's just a misguided villager? Sure.
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
October 11th, 2020, 08:21
Posts: 8,244
Threads: 30
Joined: Jun 2004
(October 11th, 2020, 08:15)Meiz Wrote: Bob
While trying to catch up.
sure why not:
Bob
October 11th, 2020, 08:21
Posts: 8,022
Threads: 37
Joined: Jan 2006
Yeah, ok.
Bob
I've got some dirt on my shoulder, can you brush it off for me?
October 11th, 2020, 08:24
Posts: 8,244
Threads: 30
Joined: Jun 2004
tally
4 votes: Meiz (pindicator, Jabbz, Kaiser, Alhambram)
3 votes: Kaiser (Bobchillingworth, , GES, sunrise)
2 votes: Bobchillingworth ( Meiz, Rowain,Gaspar)
History
October 11th, 2020, 08:25
Posts: 8,244
Threads: 30
Joined: Jun 2004
tally
4 votes: Meiz (pindicator, Jabbz, Kaiser, Alhambram)
3 votes: Kaiser (Bobchillingworth, , GES, sunrise)
3 votes: Bobchillingworth ( Meiz, Rowain,Gaspar)
History
October 11th, 2020, 08:26
Posts: 3,045
Threads: 2
Joined: Aug 2006
(October 10th, 2020, 18:16)Alhambram Wrote: About Meiz's role, he claims that he is day vig which kills player without revealing alignment. I asked him to not use upon either Lewwyn or Pindicator because I felt that town needed information from their flip.
He answered that he wouldn't use till last day. Now after rereading Jabbz's post #1410, I feel that Jabbz got the point about risk of using it at day.
To avoid chance to misdirect at last day which would end game, Meiz has to use this day and suddenly he can't use it without town ever confirming whether his role is real or not.
It starts to feel more too concidence to have Meiz making his role claim and then claiming that his role has been removed, nobody in town can check it. If Kaiser is town, he would have the ability to check if I was targeted with the ability. Thinking back this now, if I was scum, I would have time to see him bolding my name and then go through with the claim of removed powers regardless. So unless you think we are both scum, the play wouldnt' make any sense to me.
(October 10th, 2020, 18:16)Alhambram Wrote: What about Meiz influcence upon votes day 1-3?
Looking back, Meiz was the one who started to tie knot between Lewwyn, Commodore and Pindicator at posts #306 and #312 at first day. At 1st day tally of post #210 thrawn got most votes, people already thought that his play was odd. Meiz then moves to Pindicator who that moment has 0 votes and succesfully start Pindicator train did drain votes away from thrawn train since it lost traction. When Lewwyn rehammers thrawn, Meiz accused Lewwyn in post #312 of creating a new lynch candidate besides Pindicator and Commodore. Wait a new candidate? Wasn't Thrawn top lynch candidate before at #210 with already vaild reason: players got not good feeling about thrawn at moment of #210. So can you really speak of new candidate? I would say renewed vote train but not entirely new. New candidate, because it was either Commodore or Pindicator to be lynched at the time.
(October 10th, 2020, 18:16)Alhambram Wrote: I do feel very stupid myself now, letting led around like this. Orginally I did have good feel about Lewwyn (see my post #501 and #724). But when Commdore flipped red, I was like: aha Meiz has been right about Commodore/Pindicator/Lewwyn. At that moment I also has him as town and I did trust him, partitally based upon his WW47 play. Then I did make vote analysis based upon this assument instead doing proper playerread. I didn't feel confident about my reading skill since it is my 2nd WW ever and I used fact that Commodore flipped red as easy pathway to navigate who did Commodore vote with etc. As result I only got more confident that team Lewwyn/Commodore/Pindicator is correct guess. I should have realized that Warriorknight's death don't make sense for Lewwyn being wolf, my eyes was blinded and I crawled in tunnel deeply. Kudos for non Lewwyn voters for realizing this.
Yes I was very committed on the read I thought was right. So was the now-confirmed WK, who I was not following but had made my mind on the potential scum connections before him. This was not an ultimate wolf play to lead people into lynching Lewwyn, this was me thinking we had found 3 scum.
(October 10th, 2020, 18:16)Alhambram Wrote: And end of 3rd day votes for Gaspar suddenly got traction, it was caused by him roughing up Cyneheard. But what was Gaspar doing? Answer he did actual scumhunting, his style might be rough but at least he didn't sit around till end like Meiz did at day 3 altough Gaspar also thought that Lewwyn is most likely candidate. It was Meiz who called Gaspar's pressure at Cyneheard scummy as first (#1257), not Lewwyn who posted al lot content why he thinks Gaspar should be lynched next or Pindicator who promised 100% Gaspar vote at (#1335).
And now Meiz did reread of day 1-2 of Gaspar (#1381) where he declares him town but not 3rd day where Meiz did accuse him being scum. And I do wonder why Meiz didn't comment day 3 right away (next is my speculation) and gnawing sounds in back of my head thinks that Meiz is willing wait till there is some traction of Gaspar vote train. When Gaspar train leaves station then Meiz jumps in argumenting that he has been right about Gaspar being scum based upon his post #1257.
And now Meiz is wooing Gaspar, calling him a townie based upon day 1 and 2 while Meiz seems forget that day 3 did exist where he did critize Gaspar. If you check my accusation post against Gaspar, I had a very strong feeling of him being possible pal to scum-Lewwyn. You can check my post before start of this day with the updated reads, as Lewwyn was revealed as town.
October 11th, 2020, 08:42
Posts: 3,045
Threads: 2
Joined: Aug 2006
(October 11th, 2020, 08:21)Gaspar Wrote: Yeah, ok.
Bob
Is it too much to hope for more digging of this game and potential scum findings from you?
October 11th, 2020, 08:44
Posts: 3,045
Threads: 2
Joined: Aug 2006
(October 11th, 2020, 01:38)sunrise089 Wrote: @Jabbz - your day is much better than earlier ones, but how does the Kaiser+Meiz interaction make sense if they’re both scum? Why would Meiz claim his ability was stolen? Do you think he just forgot to discuss that with Kaiser in advance?
@pindicator, 1413 - what do you mean there about protecting Meiz? Didn’t you protect Rowain?
Upping these two questions as I think they are both valid.
October 11th, 2020, 08:50
Posts: 2,313
Threads: 16
Joined: May 2010
No particularly strong feelings on Jerry!, but certainly nothing to suspect he is village either.
Omar would be a touch depressed to be the only person still in character though.
Jerry!
Completed: SG2-Wonders or Else!; SG3-Monarch Can't Hold Me; WW3-Surviving Wolf; PBEM3-Replacement for Timmy of Khmer; PBEM11-Screwed Up Huayna Capac of Zulu; PBEM19-GES, Roland & Friends (Mansa of Egypt); SG4-Immortality Scares Me
|
