(October 29th, 2020, 03:22)novice Wrote: I took a look at WarriorKnight's three posts from day 2:
(October 27th, 2020, 20:31)WarriorKnight Wrote: Morning everyone. It's a beautiful day for some Explosion magic!
Firstly GG Tarkeel. I hope to see you again in another game, or maybe a bit later on in this one.
I'm real curious who would put a post restriction on Serdoa especially after he made a case to persuade several people, including myself, to give the scroll to him over superdeath.
novice, the more I look back over Day 1 the more I find myself agreeing with Serdoa and Rowain. While your early Day 1 pushes are good, it is nothing conclusive and the rest of your game leaves me with questions. While I do like your response in post 431 to Serdoa's overview, you are not bringing anything new to the table, just defending yourself against his accusations. What are your thoughts on everyone in the game?
(October 28th, 2020, 16:52)WarriorKnight Wrote: Well this has simply blown up, give me a bit to catch up with everything.
(October 28th, 2020, 18:13)WarriorKnight Wrote: Some reads while the thread blew up while I was away, the rest will have to wait until tonight:
superdeath: I have no flipping idea what that logic is of yours superdeath. Is this superdeath being superdeath or scum superdeath doing a terrible job of playing scum? I'm so lost I don't even know where to begin... The fact that Tarkeel was killed overnight while spending the whole day on you makes me very suspicious as well. What do you have to say to that superdeath?
pindicator: Your case on Lewwyn is shocking, not going to lie. Just giving up as well is incredibly scummy. Did you not learn from last game that this is not good for town?
Gaz: I really don't like that post implying the day would be between novice v Rowain. The post itself is fine to start the day with but it was made 6 hours after SD made his ridiculous claims, I can believe 1-2 hours if you are multitasking but not 6. You then came out saying the SD's posts were terrible only after Adrien & Serdoa hammered on him. Gaz, are you going to claim you missed superdeath's earlier posts after they had been up for several hours?
I don't see myself voting for anyone else at the moment. Gazglum for now until he responds.
WarriorKnight, you no longer suspect me?
I do still suspect you novice, but not as much as the other three. In my first post I asked you for your thoughts on players and you in turn responded in post 464. Although it was only half of the players, it was something. I'm still wary of you, but the three I did mention have all made moves that now make me want to vote them today over you.
(October 28th, 2020, 19:27)superdeath Wrote: Not going to quote every single post to answer them, but here is the explanation:
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I hope this helped clarify what i meant
No it doesn't superdeath. It sounds to me you are still roleplaying. And while I would love nothing more then to cast this all aside and go on about how awesome I am with my Explosion magic!, the time for that is sadly passed. You would be a lot more helpful if you gave your actual reads on players.
(October 28th, 2020, 19:17)Gazglum Wrote: He says we are a strange town indeed, not willing to plunge the knife.
I will plunge it sir, I am not afeared, to take another's life.
And I remind us again, we have the scroll, can afford to take a chance.
We kill a vet in error? Oops-a-day! We can bring them back into the dance.
And this is why my vote stays on Gaz. Gaz, we are not here to lynch vets, we are here to lynch scum. If we guess wrong with scum, that's a mislynch which is how we lose. The scroll has nothing to do with it, a dead player cannot bring back their vote no matter how experienced they are.
(October 29th, 2020, 04:24)Serdoa Wrote: As for today
General: As is normal there is no one that jumps out as "I'm the wolf, lynch me". Nonetheless there have been several players that at least posted or made statements in a way that felt illogical to me. Not having anything better to go on, that's where I'll concentrate for now.
Lewwyn: I do agree with him on Gaz, I do think he was understandable and I don't feel particularly bad about him. He did indeed look at others D1 besides Rowain, he did not go with an easy target today (imo) either and I can't remember that I've seen anything that really made me scratch my head.
novice: Has been quieter or less "scum-hunty" as I expected, but I don't know if I simply misremember. I mentioned several times he feels frustrated to me, but he never made any statement in that direction. That actually makes me feel better on him, because I would expect a wolf to happily take those and agree with them. He might have overlooked them, but currently I don't think so. I do like his questioning, I don't like him not really putting a case forward, but again, that might be me expecting a playstyle that is not how novice plays.
Great, that was it already with people I read more positive right now.
Rowain: I'm having a rather neutral stance about him. There is simply nothing that I would point to and say "Yes, exactly" or "Oh, good point". Not that it is bad either, he asked questions, he made points. It's just that I don't feel particularly enlightened. I'm not sure if I'm unfair expecting that or if it is a sign that Rowain tries to appear active without really helping. But then, my last game with him I was wolf and was begging him to play for village and he refrained from doing so, so .. yeah.
WarriorKnight: He stays out of everything and the points he makes are partly what everyone already stated. But then he makes a point (his statement towards Gaz) that is a new take on it. I'm weary though, because Gaz had at that point no heat, so it would be a save thing for a wolf to do, even if Gaz was his wolf-brother. Even better, whoever lives longer could later point back to this and state "would I do that as wolf?". And even if Gaz is not a wolf, it would of course help him stay out of the fights.
So in gist: I don't disagree with the reads, as it is more a weighing in on points already made, but I ask myself if he does not stay a little bit too much out of touch, while seemingly able to in general follow the thread / able to think things through logically. Basically - add more WK, if you are town we need you.
Superdeath: I expected him further down, but actually I'm still only suspecting him because he is posting more than I'm used from him. The kill on Tarkeel could be evidence against him and his post was just not making sense, and even his second explanation isn't helping me understand why he wrote what he did - but at this point I accept that he himself might not really know it, so that's fair - but I have no baseline for him.
Short: SD, please give your reads on everyone, I really would like to have a chance to actually build an opinion on you besides your RP-posts.
pindicator: I said my piece, no point re-iterating. I'm sorry if you are town pindi, but if you are, I again beg you to please help instead of hurt. I get pissed about this game as well sometimes, especially if I think myself unfairly suspected, but storming off isn't helping.
Adrien: I still don't like most of his posts. I think his questioning of my thrawn vote was mostly him stating that the vote is bad without actually questioning me. I disagree with most else what he writes. I think his reasoning is often missing logical thought or in my opinion obvious links. Just looking at one singular point without seeing the big picture. That can be his play-style, that can as easily be a wolf trying to appear active.
Also, I feel similar to how Rowain feels towards novice questioning him D1: I already gave the answers, they are not taken into account when putting forward new questions, which seems more targeted towards aggravating the other and less towards actually getting a better understanding of his doing.
Gazglum: His latest posts I have discussed shortly before this post here. But besides those I also did not like how he made a big deal out of novice and Lewwyn voting for him to get the scroll. He asked for something like that, people try to give it to him, all of a sudden that is the worst they could ever do? What I think could have happened here is that Gaz is a wolf and was thinking that villagers would expect him to act like that if he was a villager himself. It's just an over the top* reaction that also feels played up to be able to sow some suspicion, but I personally think it is baseless.
Till his spat with Lewwyn I was not putting too much thought towards that. While the above described and other small stuff seemed odd, he also was rhyming and I simply decided that his posts lacked clarity / more detailed explanations due to that.
And that's it why my reads, from towniest to most suspected as of now. I have not decided whom to put my vote towards, but currently the last 3 would be my preferred lynch with superdeath being an option as well if we can't agree on one of the other three.
Dark Savant: Absent, no read possible, no discussion necessary imo.
*My movie-tastes as kid were really bad. Had to think back to that movie when writing that.
I like this post Serdoa. And I do apologize for not being more active with the game, I'm doing what I can to keep up. But it's hard to do that if there are almost 100 new posts waiting for me when I wake up, and it's not like I have ample time to spare every morning in the first place. I'm not giving up my real life commitments for this game.
Need to make dinner now, will try and add more tonight.
(October 29th, 2020, 04:47)Gazglum Wrote: Serdoa, Novice, Lewwyn, Rowain
Well they know the maths of this game.
They know the risks we take if wrong.
Why then won’t they sing this song?
My sers, we are KNEE DEEP in scum,
Yet these brave men have kept feelings schtum.
No, I do not think ALL bad, I am not mad.
Novice the worst, he sees no one.
Lewwyn at least makes gestures at Glum.
If these false friends cannot end my breath,
I suspect we may yet see them turn to Superdeath.
And I mean honestly,
Superdeath plays horribly
He’s barely come, but is he scum?
I know not, and nor do you. Could well be.
But kill him now, and are we free?
Where are we then, Day 3?
I guess it boils down to - are four out of these munchkin or grognard?
Rowain alias Barbarian
Lewwyn alias Bard
Pindicator alias Cleric
Novice alias Fighter
AdrienIer alias Monk
Gazglum alias Paladin
Dark Savant alias Ranger
Serdoa alias Rogue
Warrior Knight alias Wizard
(October 29th, 2020, 03:39)Rowain Wrote: And after the crosspost with Serdoa 1 question to novice
Before Gazglum made his final vote you said
(October 26th, 2020, 06:47)novice Wrote: Sadly there are many lynchable candidates. You'll just have to pick one and we can try to take your choice into account when consolidating. The advantage of voting Rowain is that the vote at least wouldn't be based on an absence that could end while you're sleeping. But if the people currently absent remain absent I doubt I will be pushing for a Rowain lynch today.
Why would you not push a Rowain lynch then?
I was considering pushing for you ultimately decided not to, as has been discussed earlier. But I would have been happy with Gazglum leaving his vote on you, that would have given the rest of us, who were awake at lynchtime, an easier way of getting you lynched if we decided we wanted to. OTOH leaving the vote on thrawn doesn't accomplish much from a strategical perspective because if thrawn remains absent, we'll easily lynch him anyway, and if he does reappear, chances are that his thrawn vote will no longer be cast for the right reasons.
So basically I would have been happy with Gazglum putting down a difficult vote and leaving the lurker lynching to us who were awake at deadline.
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On preview I realize, maybe you're asking why didn't I push for you at deadline since thrawn had reappeared? Well, Dark Savant was still missing.
