October 29th, 2020, 06:40
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(October 29th, 2020, 05:38)Serdoa Wrote: (October 29th, 2020, 05:07)novice Wrote: I guess it boils down to - are four out of these munchkin or grognard?
Rowain alias Barbarian
Lewwyn alias Bard
Pindicator alias Cleric
Novice alias Fighter
AdrienIer alias Monk
Gazglum alias Paladin
Dark Savant alias Ranger
Serdoa alias Rogue
Warrior Knight alias Wizard
If not, Superdeath can't be a bad lynch.
Is that you paraphrasing what Gaz rhymed or did you want to state something else with that?
That was my response to the criticism from Gaz that we're knee deep in scum and still I don't want to lynch anyone.
I have to run.
October 29th, 2020, 06:41
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(October 29th, 2020, 05:01)Rowain Wrote: @the Lady wizard. The 0.1 vote D1, N1 is it your power?
No it is not.
(October 29th, 2020, 05:03)Gazglum Wrote: We have, it seems, two 0.1 votes.
One from any touched by the Bard inspiration
The other, I suspect, our Magic Matron.
My own ability is to die as Bodyguard.
Hardly anything avante-garde.
Well, this is an interesting turn of events. I do know for sure it is not me. Looking through vote tallies, it seems it could also be Serdoa. Has something happened to rule that out?
October 29th, 2020, 06:53
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(October 29th, 2020, 06:41)WarriorKnight Wrote: Well, this is an interesting turn of events. I do know for sure it is not me. Looking through vote tallies, it seems it could also be Serdoa. Has something happened to rule that out?
No has not but while I can see the paladin having a tie-breaking vote-power and can fathom how it would bind to the wizard I'm a bit on a loss why the rogue should have it.
October 29th, 2020, 06:58
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What difference would it make if I had this ability or not? What would it tell you? What if I do not have it, what do you know then?
Actually, why is it important to find out who has that additional 0.1 vote? As I already talked about countless times, it makes no difference what role-abilities we have, they do not provide any information about our alignment. Do you expect this not to be a role-ability but an actual power (given after the alignment was rolled)?
Also, I'll add to that, whoever has it might not have to tie it to his own vote. We've seen that votes from novice or Gaz are already counted with the 0.1 on top, while the other 0.1 vote only was shown in the end-tallies IIRC.
October 29th, 2020, 07:06
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(October 29th, 2020, 06:58)Serdoa Wrote: What difference would it make if I had this ability or not? What would it tell you? What if I do not have it, what do you know then?
Actually, why is it important to find out who has that additional 0.1 vote? As I already talked about countless times, it makes no difference what role-abilities we have, they do not provide any information about our alignment. Do you expect this not to be a role-ability but an actual power (given after the alignment was rolled)?
Also, I'll add to that, whoever has it might not have to tie it to his own vote. We've seen that votes from novice or Gaz are already counted with the 0.1 on top, while the other 0.1 vote only was shown in the end-tallies IIRC.
The difference it makes:
If Gazglum has this power in reality his reluctance to stop rhyming to not lose the +0.1 would look suspicious.
If you have the power Adrien's accusation that you hammered thrawn gets more real.
October 29th, 2020, 08:07
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Well, I'd still say that I did not hammer thrawn - and I've explained before why, the 0.1 would not change any of those arguments I believe - but I stand by having voted him because of the reasons I have given (which of course you can disagree on my read on him, but I think I answered that when I answered Adriens post already). If I have that 0.1 vote, you can be certain that I will have used it on my chosen lynch though. Feel free to add it to me in case of thrawn (or add 0.8 if you want) and if that leads to any questions that you feel have not yet been answered ask away.
If I have it however or if my power is more rogue-ish, is not something I feel does help town to know. I'm sure it'd be nice for scum to know if I have that power or if I'm more of a hiding-type though. If the majority requests me to reveal, I'll do so however.
And lastly: I have some issues with Gaz claimed power. If I am not missing something, that is a clear town-aligned power. Scum would basically get nothing from it - even if the Grognard can kill / we have a Vig, trading one wolf for another (not to speak of wolf for villager...) isn't really doing anything for them. Actually, if it really is the case that his alignment is not revealed though, that might be to exactly prevent the case that he rolls scum and then when he would protect another wolf would get revealed as one, which would in turn make his killer just kill his former target again. But there are several hoops to jump from for that to make some sense
a) someone else besides wolves who can kill
b) some reason why a certain wolf needs protection
c) him not revealing his role, so that his killer would have to second-guess if his kill didn't go through or if some protection was at work... (yeah, because that is not something you'll think about when you try to kill a and instead b is dead - sure if there are two night-kills you might not know you was the protector, but then one shows up without alignment... well, I guess this wouldn't be too hard to unravel)
As stated before the powers have been rolled before alignment. I don't think that Comm included a power that would so clearly be useless for scum in those role-powers (he might have as a non-role-power, but then I would assume that Gaz would tell us that he has this power + his role-power). I'm also still at a loss what alignment is not provided in which case, I'm sorry, but those rhymes don't really answer that for me.
Anyhow, that alone is not something I would fret about, but in the light of him gaining votes I have to ask if he is stating the truth or if he is coming up with a role that sounds believable and town-ish so that we refrain from lynching him today.
October 29th, 2020, 08:13
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Tally as of post 662:
Lynch votes
2.1 votes: Novice ( Rowain, Gazglum)
2 votes: Superdeath ( AdrienIer, novice)
2 votes: Gazglum ( WarriorKnight, Lewwyn)
1 votes: Lewwyn ( pindicator)
1 votes: AdrienIer ( superdeath)
1 votes: Pindicator ( Serdoa)
Voting history:
Green votes
No votes.
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October 29th, 2020, 08:20
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Gaz's role makes sense as scum if scum has a player with a useful power. Gaz defends him, so if a vig shot is aimed at him not only does he survive but town is uncertain about Gaz's alignement.
October 29th, 2020, 08:28
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October 29th, 2020, 08:40
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Ok so we're 3 and a half hours before deadline, and town is all over the place. We really need to coalesce around someone or scum will be having a field day. It looks like Novice Superdeath and Gazglum are the most likely lynches. Unless I'm wrong, the case against novice is that he's not trying hard to find scum, that he's misconstructing people's posts and that he's purposefully being obtuse and unhelpful. The case against superdeath is that he's not around, has very weird reads on what happens, and is the one with the most reasons to kill Tarkeel N1. The case against Gazglum is centered around his desire to see vets die, his strange reaction to people wanting him to have the scroll, and his cases not being very strong.
Out of those with at least one vote I'd prefer voting SD > Pindi > Gaz > Novice > Lewwyn. Superdeath is skimming the thread (the fact that he didn't read my post about things being shitty over here in France is proof of that), has provided very little for the town and even had an odd vote on thrawn D1.
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