American Politics Discussion Thread

[Jowy]

The First World-Third World horseshoe theory: random beheadings, grenade gang wars, extent of corruption, blatant election fraud.

Some of those mail-in ballots were massively in Biden's favor, like almost 90% in some batches.

Maybe international observers are needed to prevent ballot stuffing.

I'm in favor of more international observers Anything that can help keep the elections fair and respect the democractic process.

Btw you replied to the wrong thread.

[Miguelito]

27% of ballots in south florida were not delivered by the USPS. As usual, the results of the US election are illegitimate by any international standards. If this were in Iraq, we'd have bombed a few innocent civilians for their "undemocratic standards" by now.

"polls are off" more like voter suppression was 5% of the vote. Republicans can't win fair elections.

Uh...is Florida a state where a postal vote doesn't count if it arrives late? I'm losing track ...

But voter suppression still can't explain how a figure like Collins gets re-elected,  right?

[darrelljs]

A returned voted ballot must be received, regardless of postmark, by the Supervisor of Elections' office no later than 7:00 pm (local time) on Election Day. A 10-day extension exists for overseas voters only for Presidential Preference Primary and General Elections, provided the ballot is postmarked or dated by Election Day. Untimely received ballots are otherwise not counted.

Darrell

[Serdoa]

Because of actual interest: Why is that like that? A voter has cast his vote on time and yet, if the post, for whatever reason, does not deliver it in time, his vote is simply disregarded? I understand that at some point you have to cut-off, else no election will ever be over. But for example here in Germany you have a law (well regulation) which the postal service has to adhere to and which requires it to deliver 95% of letter mail in at most 2 days. They actually do 95% within one day (and close to 100% in two) - and even with alternative providers we had in my company a delivery quote of 99.96% within at most 4 days. I just don't understand why that is such a big problem in the USA, even though I understand the country is vastly bigger. 

Also, if I understood correctly, the USPS is not even able to provide proof that they did deliver several hundred thousand ballots given to them - which seems completely crazy to me when at the same time some of this states are decided by a few thousand votes.

[Jowy]

Because of actual interest: Why is that like that? A voter has cast his vote on time and yet, if the post, for whatever reason, does not deliver it in time, his vote is simply disregarded? I understand that at some point you have to cut-off, else no election will ever be over. But for example here in Germany you have a law (well regulation) which the postal service has to adhere to and which requires it to deliver 95% of letter mail in at most 2 days. They actually do 95% within one day (and close to 100% in two) - and even with alternative providers we had in my company a delivery quote of 99.96% within at most 4 days. I just don't understand why that is such a big problem in the USA, even though I understand the country is vastly bigger. 

Also, if I understood correctly, the USPS is not even able to provide proof that they did deliver several hundred thousand ballots given to them - which seems completely crazy to me when at the same time some of this states are decided by a few thousand votes.

A political ally of Trump is in charge of USPS. Republicans told their voters to vote in-person and not by mail so they can get rid of largely Democrat votes by messing with the USPS.

[ipecac]

Latest projection based on the general direction of 2020:

[Old Harry]

27% of ballots in south florida were not delivered by the USPS. As usual, the results of the US election are illegitimate by any international standards. If this were in Iraq, we'd have bombed a few innocent civilians for their "undemocratic standards" by now.

"polls are off" more like voter suppression was 5% of the vote. Republicans can't win fair elections.

Where's that stat from?

[Gustaran]

Because of actual interest: Why is that like that? A voter has cast his vote on time and yet, if the post, for whatever reason, does not deliver it in time, his vote is simply disregarded? I understand that at some point you have to cut-off, else no election will ever be over. But for example here in Germany you have a law (well regulation) which the postal service has to adhere to and which requires it to deliver 95% of letter mail in at most 2 days. They actually do 95% within one day (and close to 100% in two) - and even with alternative providers we had in my company a delivery quote of 99.96% within at most 4 days. I just don't understand why that is such a big problem in the USA, even though I understand the country is vastly bigger.

One reason is that the Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy, is either utterly incompetent or actively trying to sabotage the USPS, because he knows voting by mail will benefit Biden. He got the post in 2020 by donating a lot of money to the Trump campaign (so much for draining the swamp ).

wikipedia
Upon assuming office in June 2020, he instituted a number of cost-cutting measures such as banning overtime, forbidding late or extra trips to deliver mail, removing and dismantling hundreds of high-speed sorting machines, and removing some mail collection boxes from streets. The changes caused significant delays of mail delivery, resulting in investigations by Congressional committees and the USPS Inspector General. In August, DeJoy announced that the changes would be suspended, and in October, the USPS agreed to reverse all the changes.

[DaveV]

Latest projection based on the general direction of 2020:

I can't be bothered to find the math error, but Biden is currently shown at 248 with Wisconsin. NV + MI = 22, exactly enough to give him 270.

[Jowy]

Latest projection based on the general direction of 2020:

I can't be bothered to find the math error, but Biden is currently shown at 248 with Wisconsin. NV + MI = 22, exactly enough to give him 270.

I think Ipecac believes Biden will lose his 1 electoral vote from Nebraska. I'm not sure how they calculate it, but atm. on Fox News it shows that 98.33% votes are counted and Biden still has it.