January 11th, 2021, 00:17
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Mjmd killed my sentry Chariot but otherwise withdrew his stack outside my visibility. His HA stack in Armored Core stayed put. Superdeath declared war but left his stack in place, sending me a 1g message. I'm going to continue trusting him that he's waiting for something, but it would really suck if he just got enforced peace with Mjmd now and attacked me. I don't think I can advance too deeply into Mjmd's territory before superdeath commits his forces, unfortunately. At least this gives me the chance to add some Pikes into the mix, which I realize I was quite foolish to omit. Mjmd meanwhile is showing 4t to Engineering in his GA.
The capital naturally builds Taj in 11 turns with some overflow, but I have a ~30% GE (~70% GS) in 2 turns. I'm pretty sure Miguelito can't get to Nationalism in time to use his recent GE (showing 4t on Philosophy, and Nationalism is more than twice as expensive), but maybe he could put everything on wealth and research builds and make it a race. I do have the option of swapping back into Slavery and whipping up to 9 pop off the capital to finish it, but of course I'd prefer to avoid that.
I also finished Paper last turn but forgot to send requests for map trades. I'm pretty sure I just try to swap maps with everyone but Mjmd and Miguelito.
January 11th, 2021, 03:35
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January 11th, 2021, 04:31
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(January 11th, 2021, 03:35)civac2 Wrote: Are map trades allowed?
We have a game option for that and looking at the tech thread map trading is allowed.
January 11th, 2021, 23:09
(This post was last modified: January 11th, 2021, 23:22 by El Grillo.)
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Superdeath has positioned in a way that really does not inspire confidence by actually moving closer toward my cities, but again I'm only playing in the hopes that he cooperates in this adventure, and conceding immediately otherwise, so I'm throwing caution to the winds and advancing on Mjmd's next city. His Catapults are in range but he hasn't moved up his HAs so he shouldn't have enough hitters to really hurt my stack, and more importantly won't be flanking away my Catapults.
Final odds on the next great person will be 75:25 Scientist:Engineer. One of the seafood-rich island cities up north is working on the next, almost pure Scientist GPP pool.
On the topic of concession, if the one player in a dominating lead is regularly playing longer turns than the rest of the players combined, including all the players at war and the nominal runner-up in vanrober who's at war with Mig, then that's just a little bit problematic... If everyone else is willing to call the game and it's just me, then yeah we don't need to go on playing for my sake.
January 13th, 2021, 16:42
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The good news is that superdeath appears to have gone in against Mjmd, and everyone accepted map trades. The bad news is that the map trades confirm my belief that this game is over, as vanrober is still playing short turns, has allowed Miguelito to raze first-ring cities, and could actually somehow lose his capital next. The only real chance we had for this game to end differently was for some kind of attrition-y dogpile, and while it could certainly still happen, again I don't want to be the only player holding up this game.
January 14th, 2021, 17:40
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This was a really great read. (And GG.)
There is no way to peace. Peace is the way.
January 15th, 2021, 07:36
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Your analysis of the ongoing situation all game was mostly spot on. GG
Couple of thoughts.
"Fortunately there's nothing too blatantly placed strategically for us to fight over." Quote about land between you and SD. Spot on. However, you then think about splitting SD with me? Mind you I wanted to attack him, but because of both your and SD ball shapped area neither of you was really splittable. By anyone. The only splittable party on our continent was me.....
Thoughts on settling 'The Planets' as your 5th city? Instead of something east like the gem dry rice city you had planned.It would have been a huge pickup as would have been a net 4 city difference between us later on (you would have been up 2 and me down 2). Would have needed something other than a warrior to defend probably, but still huge.
BTW you not opening borders early incentived my 1 chariot to take that shot, although I did like the defense with the worker you pulled.
To note when I planted my northern cities I had no clue how close to your capital that was....... How much I wanted to antagonize you that early did factor into me not grabbing the gem though (I agonized over that for quite a bit).
Great Diamond "Hmm, perhaps we might be fighting Mjmd first whether we like it or not. That's not really a city he can allow to exist." THIS x1000 lol. I wanted to attack SD SOOOO BAD, but when Diamond got religion (did you manually spread or was it random?), it made it clear it had to go. Mind you I should have JUST taken Great Diamond and then hit SD instead of attacking you in the north as well. While in my planning I always had an option to go attack SD afterwards, for some reason it never occured to me to not do this part of the attack.....
About the turn split thing that held things up. I did not know you had a galley there and were planning to attack. I'm going to post this in the lurker thread as well as I think lurkers forget we players don't know the whole story.
Just as an fyi I had planned on razing Gira's old capital btw (I think I could have gotten 2 even), but I stagged on the wrong tile...... Mig then offered me 100g for peace, which I needed pretty bad.
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