[SPOILERS]A new adventure of Vanrober always guided by chumchu

[chumchu]

He will have 2 culture and we will have 2 culture so we should be equal right? Is he a turn ahead of us in culture wrt to the furs? I would get galley first regardless. We do not want a monument there. Better to get a library as the city has 3 food sources.

About 1 point from Ruff, maybe he won and lost something with a difference of 1?

I would agree that a scout for amica would be valuable from pome.

Since civac joined the war I fear that Cairo might be doomed. compare his power graph to his two opponents.

I would not be overly worried about workers near mjmd. Look at his Neapolis garrison. You should guard them with spears or horse archers. as two-movers would be the likely snipe unit.

Lingonberry is looking good for settlers =) Three turns is great for a 5 pop city.

[vanrober]

Well maybe we should. Mjmd declared war on us.im not sure if its warpeace or what but im scared.

His thread has burn into posts so maybe something big happened.

Also jalapeño has 1 turn more of 2 culture, so he is poping out faster.

[chumchu]

Interesting. I'm glad that we have had the time to fortify our cities more. Will be interesting to see if it is a proper invasion or just a war-peace.

[vanrober]

If Ruff plays before, ill join after lunch (4h-5h apx from now).

I think its a war peace to secure the border while spliting cairo with civac. But since i have no vision of that front idk. I cant say im not nervous to see what happened.

Feel free to join after ruff plays if you wsnt to see first person

[vanrober]

turn 100

Tragic. We have been baited so hard by Mjmd. I dont really understand why he chosed to kill us instead of Cairo. We have more pop, we have more production, we have more power and we are farther because he already settled on our face. Its true that he had a huge advantage being able to fork 2 cities because of his pinkdots, but i dont think he can kill us without construction, so he just decided to be in a super long war with us for no real gains i think.

Well thats not totally true, he has lingonberry for free. we cannot defend that anyhow. So i think i will sell it and move everything into the capitol. Chop and whip a bunch of units and get our civ in the grownd, we have gold now because of currency and we dont really can afford keep working on cottages. So lets do axe everywhere and dont let him do anything in the rest of the game. Civac just peaced Cairo too so i guess he is going for mjmd or Jowy, i guess jowy since he has not much of anything, but goign for mjmd i think it would make sense since he has everything on our border. I ll try to diplo him to ask him for help if we could split rome with cairo it would be huge. But we are not in the possition of splitting anything, we have less units than him in those 2 cities.

   

Now he took 2 workers on a forest of Raspberry, and is threating the other one, i think the best play is to chop that forest adn delete the unit afterwards so we get another axe free of whiping and we hold that stack for now. The problem is that if he turns the 10men stack into raspberry there is no way on holding that city. I think lingon and raspberry are the cities he can take but only raspberry can be his, lingon would be so easy to retake for us once we get construction i think.

   

Same on Lemon, i think we should finish the chop and delete the unit so we can make more axes there. I dont think he has any other stack resting behind since those are 15 units. we have more than 15 but lower quality of praets as obv.

   

Also, what do we do with the settler that was going for rambutan? should we settle that city? I think we should since its a good hammer city and could help making units faster. We can make the granary with 2 chops and then make axes by choping the rest of the land. I think we shouldnt leave any forest unchoped.

Ruff has no units on the island. Its free whenever we have a galley. It has a building that i dont know what is, any clue? 

   

[chumchu]

I think Ruffs building is the palace maybe? Do you think he has any units on the ship? How does the power make sense otherwise? Can we repostion more units form the north?

We should definitely plant the new city on palins hill.

Well. That sucks.

Micro: I agree we should finish the chops into axes. I would try to get as many axes as possible in the border cities. Whipping axes close to the front and horse archers further away is what I suggest.

Defensive strategy: I agree we should get construction. Catapultss and to a lesser degree elephants helps a lot here. Since he is attacking in 2 separate stacks I suggest we try to delay one of them and defeat the other with superior numbers. We have our culture and roads so we can concentrate forces more easily.

What is in the lingonberry stack exactly? That determines what we should evacuate. Since we have walls we should get a good trade with axes even if he has large stack and will win eventually. Say that we leave 2 axes that each take a preatorian with them and damage another, that is a win for us. If he has to stop and heal or wait for reinforcements we get time to get more units and catapults. That is of course harder if he has chariots. Archers in lingonberry can be evacuated to the captitol which we want to hold and they will be better with the hill bonus will help.

The southern stack look smaller. It might be possible to defeat with axes and our horse archer reserve.

[vanrober]

I think Ruffs building is the palace maybe? Do you think he has any units on the ship? How does the power make sense otherwise? Can we repostion more units form the north?

We should definitely plant the new city on palins hill.

Well. That sucks.

Micro: I agree we should finish the chops into axes. I would try to get as many axes as possible in the border cities. Whipping axes close to the front and horse archers further away is what I suggest.

Defensive strategy: I agree we should get construction. Catapultss and to a lesser degree elephants helps a lot here. Since he is attacking in 2 separate stacks I suggest we try to delay one of them and defeat the other with superior numbers. We have our culture and roads so we can concentrate forces more easily.

What is in the lingonberry stack exactly? That determines what we should evacuate. Since we have walls we should get a good trade with axes even if he has large stack and will win eventually. Say that we leave 2 axes that each take a preatorian with them and damage another, that is a win for us. If he has to stop and heal or wait for reinforcements we get time to get more units and catapults. That is of course harder if he has chariots. Archers in lingonberry can be evacuated to the captitol which we want to hold and they will be better with the hill bonus will help.

The southern stack look smaller. It might be possible to defeat with axes and our horse archer reserve.

We got 3 axes with no promo, one of them 10% def bonus, and 1 archer with pro promos

Well cats are going to be slow, we are geting 30sh gold and now im working all on mines. The capitol has just 1 warrior. there is 2 HA 1 tile far from lingon. I think it would be better to get archers with the OF in Raspberry, i ve been making sims and since we get G2 on the archer is better than axe with C1. Also feel free to get in the game chumchu, you will se everything more clear. If you cant and you need a day ill ask for a time extension if you want.

Ruff power might be another tech? not sure which but... also 1 unit on the galley might make sense

[chumchu]

Lingonberry:
- If that is the case we will get 65% odds on defense vs. shock praetorians as long as we have 5% or more fortification with axes.
- If not they do not get odds and should be retreated. The same with archers, regardless of fortification in a flatland city. Maybe you can leave one in a important flatland city to protect against chariots.
- I would just leave the fortified axe and whip the city. If he has a chariot that one is not safe either =(

[vanrober]

he dont seem to have one. And where do we retreat? capitol or raspberry? Should we whip everything now or should we try to optimize the whip OF?

[chumchu]

We want to make sure to hold both capital and raspberry cities as they are on hills. We should whip everything not on a swapping penalty and in border cities if ti is necessary to stop them form dying.