January 25th, 2021, 08:56
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I can make a save with v12 pretty easily, but that's a decision for you all, not me.
I'm working today, so I'll have limited time, but I'll be around.
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January 25th, 2021, 09:47
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What is the difference between 12 and 12.1 anyway? Is there a relevant fix or just balance fine tuning?
Maybe we can try to all download the same version (naufragar's upload, or whatever) and roll with that?
January 25th, 2021, 09:54
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(January 25th, 2021, 04:51)mackoti Wrote: 4 hours of trying to make this work and no chanse same old problems.I tryed everithing, got cairo download.I tryed v12 is just working excelent, I dont know why we have to use this. I might just have to drop the game.Its not working.
And game goes directly out but i can see for few momnet something with protected files. I dont think this version works for pbems.I realy tryed to get from begging with version we know is stable and working.
That sounds like what happened with me for the "original_release_unsupported" version on steam. If you're using Steam, set it to the normal version and try.
edit: this version absolutely works for PBEM, since it's what we used for all the other PBEM's from XLIX to LIII, and I don't remember anyone having issues with that version for those games.
January 25th, 2021, 10:14
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I found the notes for 12.1, the only one that would apply to this game is the Foreign Trade nerf.
(July 16th, 2015, 23:43)Qgqqqqq Wrote: Changes for v12.1:
FT goes to +25% trade route, from +50%
Remove the +1% food from FT (Bug)
Vampires goes to 5/5 str, from 6/5
Governors Manors now at Mathematics
River of Blood now requires Feudalism, gives +3/-3 pop
Warrens goes to -1gpt - Clarification that this is instead of being +10% maintenance
January 25th, 2021, 10:40
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(January 25th, 2021, 09:54)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 04:51)mackoti Wrote: 4 hours of trying to make this work and no chanse same old problems.I tryed everithing, got cairo download.I tryed v12 is just working excelent, I dont know why we have to use this. I might just have to drop the game.Its not working.
And game goes directly out but i can see for few momnet something with protected files. I dont think this version works for pbems.I realy tryed to get from begging with version we know is stable and working.
That sounds like what happened with me for the "original_release_unsupported" version on steam. If you're using Steam, set it to the normal version and try.
edit: this version absolutely works for PBEM, since it's what we used for all the other PBEM's from XLIX to LIII, and I don't remember anyone having issues with that version for those games. I tryed an old save on v12 which we used for last 2 pbems(remember i played in both) and worked so its not on my part.As well i tryed bob adventure on v12.1 and worked.
So either is something with the save, or something with this v 12.1. We used til now v12 . I tryed a game in SP and working so must be something with save format or I dont know...Try resend the save or someone else(not a player ) try to open my save.
January 25th, 2021, 12:32
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(January 25th, 2021, 10:40)mackoti Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 09:54)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 04:51)mackoti Wrote: 4 hours of trying to make this work and no chanse same old problems.I tryed everithing, got cairo download.I tryed v12 is just working excelent, I dont know why we have to use this. I might just have to drop the game.Its not working.
And game goes directly out but i can see for few momnet something with protected files. I dont think this version works for pbems.I realy tryed to get from begging with version we know is stable and working.
That sounds like what happened with me for the "original_release_unsupported" version on steam. If you're using Steam, set it to the normal version and try.
edit: this version absolutely works for PBEM, since it's what we used for all the other PBEM's from XLIX to LIII, and I don't remember anyone having issues with that version for those games. I tryed an old save on v12 which we used for last 2 pbems(remember i played in both) and worked so its not on my part.As well i tryed bob adventure on v12.1 and worked.
So either is something with the save, or something with this v 12.1. We used til now v12 . I tryed a game in SP and working so must be something with save format or I dont know...Try resend the save or someone else(not a player ) try to open my save.
Yeah, we used the new files for 12.1, just didn't call it that. I checked, on the first of the PBEM's (XLIX) we used the 12.1 files, and never changed versions in all the games that followed. I could open the last save I got for the last PBEM with the 12.1 files in the mod, it was just called 12.
Anyway, do you use the Steam version of Civ4? If so, do you use the "original_release_unsupported" version needed for pitbosses? For the latest save Nauf sent me that's what I did to get it to work. If not, then we'll just have to use 12, it doesn't really make a difference this game, since the mane difference is a nerf to the Calabim, who aren't here.
January 25th, 2021, 12:37
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(January 25th, 2021, 12:32)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 10:40)mackoti Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 09:54)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 04:51)mackoti Wrote: 4 hours of trying to make this work and no chanse same old problems.I tryed everithing, got cairo download.I tryed v12 is just working excelent, I dont know why we have to use this. I might just have to drop the game.Its not working.
And game goes directly out but i can see for few momnet something with protected files. I dont think this version works for pbems.I realy tryed to get from begging with version we know is stable and working.
That sounds like what happened with me for the "original_release_unsupported" version on steam. If you're using Steam, set it to the normal version and try.
edit: this version absolutely works for PBEM, since it's what we used for all the other PBEM's from XLIX to LIII, and I don't remember anyone having issues with that version for those games. I tryed an old save on v12 which we used for last 2 pbems(remember i played in both) and worked so its not on my part.As well i tryed bob adventure on v12.1 and worked.
So either is something with the save, or something with this v 12.1. We used til now v12 . I tryed a game in SP and working so must be something with save format or I dont know...Try resend the save or someone else(not a player ) try to open my save.
Yeah, we used the new files for 12.1, just didn't call it that. I checked, on the first of the PBEM's (XLIX) we used the 12.1 files, and never changed versions in all the games that followed. I could open the last save I got for the last PBEM with the 12.1 files in the mod, it was just called 12.
Anyway, do you use the Steam version of Civ4? If so, do you use the "original_release_unsupported" version needed for pitbosses? For the latest save Nauf sent me that's what I did to get it to work. If not, then we'll just have to use 12, it doesn't really make a difference this game, since the mane difference is a nerf to the Calabim, who aren't here. I have a Cd copy so no steam. I know i have a a version 1.2 installed on my computer and just to check if something wrong with my computer i load a save from the last pbem and worked just fine.
January 25th, 2021, 12:48
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(January 25th, 2021, 12:37)mackoti Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 12:32)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 10:40)mackoti Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 09:54)Mr. Cairo Wrote: (January 25th, 2021, 04:51)mackoti Wrote: 4 hours of trying to make this work and no chanse same old problems.I tryed everithing, got cairo download.I tryed v12 is just working excelent, I dont know why we have to use this. I might just have to drop the game.Its not working.
And game goes directly out but i can see for few momnet something with protected files. I dont think this version works for pbems.I realy tryed to get from begging with version we know is stable and working.
That sounds like what happened with me for the "original_release_unsupported" version on steam. If you're using Steam, set it to the normal version and try.
edit: this version absolutely works for PBEM, since it's what we used for all the other PBEM's from XLIX to LIII, and I don't remember anyone having issues with that version for those games. I tryed an old save on v12 which we used for last 2 pbems(remember i played in both) and worked so its not on my part.As well i tryed bob adventure on v12.1 and worked.
So either is something with the save, or something with this v 12.1. We used til now v12 . I tryed a game in SP and working so must be something with save format or I dont know...Try resend the save or someone else(not a player ) try to open my save.
Yeah, we used the new files for 12.1, just didn't call it that. I checked, on the first of the PBEM's (XLIX) we used the 12.1 files, and never changed versions in all the games that followed. I could open the last save I got for the last PBEM with the 12.1 files in the mod, it was just called 12.
Anyway, do you use the Steam version of Civ4? If so, do you use the "original_release_unsupported" version needed for pitbosses? For the latest save Nauf sent me that's what I did to get it to work. If not, then we'll just have to use 12, it doesn't really make a difference this game, since the mane difference is a nerf to the Calabim, who aren't here. I have a Cd copy so no steam. I know i have a a version 1.2 installed on my computer and just to check if something wrong with my computer i load a save from the last pbem and worked just fine.
I loaded a save from the last PBEM with the 12.1 files and it worked fine, so I really have no idea.
January 25th, 2021, 13:08
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I am 99 % as I said the save is no good. I made an experiment I renamed the V12.1 you sent me on google drive to just v12 and load older save and is working. If I rename back to v12.1 as normal ask me to load version v12.
I understand what you keep saying now that we played with same files while i said when I load eitb for game until now was always V12 never v12.1, the thing that if you rename v12.1 to v12 and keep working.
So yeah please sent the save to naufragr or to someone else which has v12.1 instalated to see if he can open this save as I think save is no good.
January 25th, 2021, 13:23
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(January 25th, 2021, 13:08)mackoti Wrote: I am 99 % as I said the save is no good. I made an experiment I renamed the V12.1 you sent me on google drive to just v12 and load older save and is working. If I rename back to v12.1 as normal ask me to load version v12.
I understand what you keep saying now that we played with same files while i said when I load eitb for game until now was always V12 never v12.1, the thing that if you rename v12.1 to v12 and keep working.
So yeah please sent the save to naufragr or to someone else which has v12.1 instalated to see if he can open this save as I think save is no good.
OK, I'll send the save to Nauf, see if he can open it, since he sent me the original save and is using (as far as I know) the install of EitB I sent him.
If he can't open it, I suggest that he send the worldbuilder file to someone we know can do this, who has set up a PBEM before (Bob?).
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