[SPOILERS]A new adventure of Vanrober always guided by chumchu

[vanrober]

I would not take peace here.

Great Diplo work!

We can consider leaving pome but we should try to make him waste movement going to siege it.

Yes i think we should leave pome and leave all our stack on Figs, once he gets near i think we will need to do so. I would like to chop some of the forest of pome before, but this lack of workers is huge. He did a great labour getting them from us.

BTW noone gave us gold... i cant understand why, we are holding mjmd... if people doesnt help he is going to be huge.

[vanrober]

Mjmd moved his small stack towards Ruff area, i emptied Ruffs capitol and Sloe, im going to try to defend on Arbutus and Grapes, overall Grapes because it has a GG on it.

Lazteuq asked for OB and i gave him, if we can give him some gold it will be usefull against Noble, he is going to win either way but if we make him harder it will be better.

So mjmd is coming with 12 really good praets, we need around 9 axes to hold for sure the city, we have 7 right now, on 2 turns we will have 11 more, so i think we can hold that stack on 1 city, but he can burn the rest.

Also, he is briging 1 galley, not sure if its scouting or has units inside, i said that was a possibility some turns ago, but it has needed several turns to come. Our axes are full hp with 10% defense bonus so i think he is burning that island. Its sad.If i had moved the galleys different... Anyways lets pray to RNGesus.

           

And the most important thing, after some micro i finally aimed construction on 3 turns from now! Lets see if we have any citty whipeable in that moment

[chumchu]

Cats would be very nice. We need 3 turns to tech, then start, then whip.

We need a few and a concentration of force to be able to kill any of his stacks. Maybe we can hit him pome or outside of grapes/figs

[vanrober]

I saw he did t kill our island of ruff area, so maybe its empty the galley. Or maybe he put the praets on land to kate the city without the penalty oversea.

Yeah i know we need to make a stack of cats, the thing is that i cannot hold his stack right now and he can take whatever he wants, the thing is that i dont know how to make it to las long enough to make some cats and threat him. If we can hit him with cats he will be in trouble. Still gots more power and more everyrhing than us so if he wants he is gping to kill us, but the cost will be any of the last chances he could still have.

I still dont understand this atack in 10 turns he judt got 4 workers and 2 cities doubling our power and everybody else... Gira and civac took jowy with less ppwer than us in less time... He could have done that to cairo, then recover and then hit us or civac...

If i get to play tomorrow morning ill post some more pics but i wont be able to move until my 14 or 15h

[chumchu]

I agree that his attack has not gone well. It has turned into a grind which you want to avoid at all cost as the attacker. Part of it is that 1-movers are slow, part of it is that he did not have enough to take our capitol or lemon on in the first wave. In hindsight I think he should have concentrated on one of these. 3 stacks was one to many. I think he underestimated how good your defense would be.

I know it will be hard to get the catapults out but it is the only way to stop him here. You will have to take risks to do it. Is there any city not building units that can build units? Is there any garrison troop you can pull form somewhere? Now is the time. If you have enough axes to match his northern stack + 4 cats and some HA you can clear it.

[vanrober]

Already play the tur it was a easy one. Im holding Grapes with an axe and an archer to force him to move his praets, so he cannot take it with chariots. He just move them this turn, sadly we lost the fortify bonnus of the archer since i moved last tun thinking he wouldnt moving axesa and to take that city he would need to waste 2 1 movers, also i made an axe instead of a spear, if it were a spear it would have been fine.

Anyway, we are losing the island next turn and im moving the axes elsewhere, not sure if we should threat him somehow in his core or turn back.

Arbutus is holded i think for sure we have a lot of units there. The ret i guess they are falling, on Sloe im going to build a spear with overflow so he needs lots of turns of moving there, hopefully we can whip a catapult before it dies.

               

Civac raising his power, hopefully wanting to get mjmd instead of cairo... But since we are holding mjmd civac might just want us both to fall in that and then get cairo and after that get mjmd.

Asked fish fish to amica since he has whiped a lots of HA and he could try to split us with mjmd.

[vanrober]

I have a question of mechanics for any lurker.

Ive seen that mjmd captured a city and then raze it, but he had the chance to burn it or not and i dont know why he had that choice, i thought it was an autoraze since it had 1 pop. When i conquered it it was 1 pop but with palace, but now it wasnt a palace there. Any clue?

[Charriu]

Cities only get auto-razed if they never grew bigger than 1 pop in the cities live time

[vanrober]

But belonging to me it never grew. I mean when he captured lingonberry he decided to get it, then i took it back and when he took it back it autorazed.

[Charriu]

Who built that city? It was Ruff right? And he mostly likely grew the city at least one time