[SPOILERS] Roland and Suboptimal Team Up

[roland of gilead]

Hmmm good point (and I now see the one converted city on the southern coast)....wonder if the patch misapplied and his pre-patch buildings aren't generating GWAM like they should be?

yes i believe it is bugged.

[roland of gilead]

TURN 115

mercantalism in my camps just got better. Not got many mind you.



Got an Inspiration from my second market.



Bought my 3rd trader.



Started a university next to a mountain.



Another 2 trade routes to buy.



Chopped and laid down a Holy Site in aribo will finish walls here then get this up and running.



Policy switches from this.

to this

[suboptimal]

Turn 115

Builder at Al complete, archer at OC complete. Start trebuchet and man-at-arms, respectively. Builder mines the niter and I find rifling:




I see that I forgot to disable Sukritact’s UI mods again after some SP fiddling for PBEM 21. Whoops. Man-at-arms is still not updated for my policy situation. I’ll fix that in seven turns when Exploration completes. Over on Big Island the sword reaches Mother & Child and the horseman and builder continue moving south. Graceland grew this turn, Hearts & Bones grows next turn. A bit further south:




My galley’s got an issue. CMF was able to come up and around….should have seen that. My galley did earn a promotion and I promote-heal with Embolon. That might buy me some time for this:




I already got that era score boost. I had read on CivFanatics that the patch did some funny things to era score awards (someone posted a picture of not-Sweden getting +4 era score for training Caroliers). Anyway, the jong was bought at Hearts & Bones and will able to attack the eastern galley the turn after next. Elsewhere it’s a bit of a shame I have a DoF with Japan:




Down at the Aussie coast:




Let’s see here. How to inflict max damage? I need two jong shots at the capital, three to four at Theory and that leaves me one spare. Chariot jong shoots the galley blocking the capital. Sword jong moves up, unlinks and shoots. Swordsman takes and I’ve got five turns to get loyalty under control. Liang moves down here, giving me twelve turns to relieve some loyalty pressure. Start a monument repair and I’ll buy walls next turn if I still have the city. Over at Low-End Theory the sword jong shoots the galley next to the city. Non-escort jong kills the injured galley and the knight jong moves up next to the city and shoots a galley in the fog to the east, killing it. The two free jongs sink the injured following galley and do 94 points of damage to an uninjured one. Situation at the end of the turn:




Low-End Theory will fall next turn. Roland, I fully expect there to be a potential World Congress vote called as an emergency next turn – taking an enemy’s capital usually makes the resolution available to everyone. Oh yeah, check out Russia’s milpower. There’s definitely some frigates on the way...somewhere.

Ljublana lost a pile of empire score (155 → 142) and about 42 milpower last turn that I didn’t note. Archduke gained 12 empire score this turn as well, so I think a city flipped hands. There’s no trade gossip but Writing on the Wall isn’t in Phoenician hands. I haven’t been paying attention to check the city’s borders and there’s no trade gossip (there’s gossip that England is trading with Japan) or anything about cities (or era score indicating a flip). Phoenicia has DoFs with everyone but China so it would have to have been a swap. (Post-turn addition – it was Phoenician with full loyalty last turn). That makes me wonder what Phoenicia (and England) might be planning if they’re willing to swap a city like that.

[roland of gilead]

That is worrying.

That may have been the price of peace. We may also be about to get dogpiled i suppose in world congress. We will see i have diplo at least.

[roland of gilead]

Turn 117

England has writing on the wall again.



It also has a deal for us.



I hope you don't mind Sub but i just signed this. I was going to pass and let you send one to them but I just couldn't see how anything we do in the next 30 turns involves taking on England/Japan.

i can only see that city swap being them signing a DOF with the bruise brothers and extorting them a bit. So are they also hitting Russia.

I do hope so. They had a DOF with Russia but signed it a good while back. Can we send them a deal that clarifys things iron for horses or some such perhaps iron for gold to signify the turn countdown.

4 turns to Mausolleum



I upgrade a warrior to a man at arms which really boosts my City strength.

new city next turn which will improve my amenities and gold culture etc fast. Will chop out walls and buy a trade route 1st turn.

[roland of gilead]

do we look to sign a new DOF with the bruise brothers?

that could lead to a dog pile on Russia/Australia.

then a period of enforced peace. Would though secure our back lines. while we profit as much as possible from russia Australia.

[suboptimal]

The DoF ends in about 10 turns. I think with the renewed DoF you have with England we're OK with Red/White. I likewise think that renewing with Bruise might be a good idea but we'll worry about that in the early 120's.

Keep in mind that you will need niter to upgrade your quads. I'm going to try to use the last builder charge on Big Island to get the niter at Mother & Child connected. I've got a third niter at Diamonds but would need to purchase the tile. I'll check how much and we can plan accordingly. I do not have any immediate needs for niter so can send all of it your way.

Down in Australia I'm going to take Low-End THeory with the knight and then keep it on land. I want to pillage that +9 base Holy Site and then see if the knight can take that city by itself (CS 50 vs 24 might be doable) or pillage things and wait for the fleet to arrive. I'm buying walls at the former capital on the upcoming turn, will complete the monument and then start spamming scouts. They're cheap, fast to build there, one can act as the loyalty garrison (freeing up the swordsman for combat) and I can send them to the fleet for cheap +5 CS "upgrades".

Note to self: need to check Russia's max niter stores. They may be limited in their ability to upgrade. The fact I don't need niter remains an advantage over everyone else - I get frigates for no resource cost.

[roland of gilead]

yeah i need to slot the half price strategics card for my Quad upgrades. Check Australia as well as they have at least 1 niter mine and will be sending it across.

i will need to send some Niter to you to store but i should be able to do 5 or 6 immediately. then it's a bit slow after that.

I can send gold for the tile purchase but i have a lot of army to upgrade.

may have to send another trade route to cuniform or run triangular trade.

[suboptimal]

It didn't occur to me that you could use me as a silo. Send it over and I'll keep it on ice for you.

I've got some pillaging available over at My Beautiful Darkness. The Holy Site and Campus will eat it first and then I'll try to get the mines/lumbermills for funds before taking the city.

[roland of gilead]

It didn't occur to me that you could use me as a silo.  Send it over and I'll keep it on ice for you.

I've got some pillaging available over at My Beautiful Darkness.  The Holy Site and Campus will eat it first and then I'll try to get the mines/lumbermills for funds before taking the city.

yeah i have been sweating about niter for a while so sussed that one a while back. 

Actually considered it for iron but was never needed. 

yeah some pillaging would be great.