May 15th, 2021, 21:00
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I think at some point soon after this round of caravels, I might divert to a couple more quad builds (like 4) and try to spend some time in Retinues (instead of Bastions) if I can push TAD away from my cities. If we are ever going to go on the offensive in this war, we will need a ton of frigates, and we just don't have the niter supply to upgrade them en masse as of now. I am going to put a self-imposed moratorium on these full-cost frigate upgrades and builds for myself unless TAD kills a bunch next turn, I think.
I think my target next turn should be to take out whichever ship is guarding the Great Admiral, if that's at all feasible. Who knows where it would teleport if I managed to do that...certainly not close enough to boost the northern fleet on the following turn.
edit: hey Woden, how many quads do you have right now? I am trying to figure out whether I should get quads in some of my northern cities next in preparation for more frigate upgrades or just go all-in on caravels. The latter probably makes more sense if you have a few quads, since it is better to spend gold upgrading our existing old ships rather than build more old ships that we won't have the gold to upgrade anyways. There will be an argument for the former too though if TAD kills a few of my frigates this turn, since the biggest limitation on frigate promotion is actually niter and the only way to save on that is by upgrading in Retinues.
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(May 15th, 2021, 21:00)ljubljana Wrote: hey Woden, how many quads do you have right now? I am trying to figure out whether I should get quads in some of my northern cities next in preparation for more frigate upgrades or just go all-in on caravels. The latter probably makes more sense if you have a few quads, since it is better to spend gold upgrading our existing old ships rather than build more old ships that we won't have the gold to upgrade anyways. There will be an argument for the former too though if TAD kills a few of my frigates this turn, since the biggest limitation on frigate promotion is actually niter and the only way to save on that is by upgrading in Retinues.
I only have 3 quads and I am going to go very heavy caravel builds since I only get my 50% shipbuilding bonus on melee ships. If you want to build more quad, go for it. Until his navy is sunk, I will probably only upgrade 1 frigate to get the city defense strength up, otherwise, I will upgrade my remaining longboats and build caravels.
May 16th, 2021, 17:34
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yeahhh idk, let's see how many of my frigates TAD killed. How many longboats do you have to upgrade before and after the big round of upgrades this turn? If we're going to run out of stuff to spend gold on in the next 10t or so, I'll build more quads, otherwise it might be better to just keep pumping the caravels. I think I only have one quad and two biremes left (one of which I'm upgrading this turn), which will not keep our gold income occupied for long.
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I upgraded 8 longboats this turn and have 3 more to upgrade plus 3 quads, 2 swords, 1 warrior, 4 archers, and a heavy chariot. Not all that need to be upgraded in the near future, it is just what I have. I would say it might not be a bad idea to get some built just to have around just in case you can upgrade them or need them.
Once the era turns, I will hook up my 2nd niter.
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As for you turn, I think it might be best to fight north and try and get rid of most of his frigates but will defer to your judgement. I am at least 2 turns, probably 3, from engaging his ships near WotW.
May 16th, 2021, 17:47
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ooh I haven't opened the save yet, does that mean TAD took my caravel armada bait? I really hope he killed The Revenge, he would have to have committed at least 4 frigates to do so and I'm not sure how they can be defended if so. If I can get a bunch of frigates this turn while keeping mine I don't know how TAD's offensive will recover its momentum.
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Oops, forgot a screenshot but yes, he killed your armada and has minimum caravel shielding between your boats and his frigates in the north. There is 1 redlined caravel and 1 injured one, then 5 frigates to the north. If planned out right you should be able to kill some of them. He also took WotW but don't worry about that right now.
May 16th, 2021, 17:55
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Looks like a yes  . TAD killed The Revenge and two Embolon caravels, but look how exposed those frigates are. I think this will be a good turn.
...any guesses as to why it doesn't look like Linear B is going to get a city range strike? Hopefully I just have to pick a civic research and the option to do so will appear. I am going to spend the governor promotion on the first Victor level, by the way, unless you have other ideas. Victor 3 will be very useful once we can get him since we will inevitably spend plenty of time dealing with attacks at our cities in this game.
Thrilled that TAD wasted time retaking WotW, will definitely ignore it in favor of maximizing frigate kills.
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No idea why you don't have a city strike. If it doesn't show up after you select your civic and governor (Victor is good), I woudl reload and see if it was a loading issue.
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Ok, it was just a loading issue. Playing the turn now.
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