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We Need a Jagiellon! - A Crusader Kings 3 Story

Ringaudas, Interregnum

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Emperor Ringaudas is 26 years old.  Under his name are shown the 3 Personality Traits, his Education Trait, a Commander Trait, a Fame Trait, and a Health Trait.  In order of appearance these are:
  • Trusting (+2 Diplomacy, -2 Intrigue, +15 Vassal and Liege Opinion, +15% Enemy Hostile Scheme Success)
  • Patient (+2 Learning, +5 Vassal and Liege Opinion, +10 Hostile Scheme Resistance, -15 Opinion for Impatient characters)
  • Gregarious (+2 Diplomacy, +5 Attraction Opinion, +15% Personal Scheme Power, +10 Opinion for Gregarious characters)
  • Grey Eminence (+8 Diplomacy, +40% Monthly Diplomacy Lifestyle Experience)
  • Unyielding Defender (-25% Friendly Fatality Casualies)
  • Child of Concubine (-1 Diplomacy)
  • Leper (-8 Prowess, -95% Fertility, Severe Health Penalty, +100% Dread Loss, -20 Natural Dread, -10 General Opinion, -35 Attraction Opinion)

That last one is obviously the biggest hurdle for Ringaudas.  He likely will have a short life, produce no heirs, be unliked, and it will be harder to use the cheesy "execute everybody in the prison" strat to keep the vassals in line with fear.

His vassal situation is actually not terrible:




I've already done a few things to make people happier.  King Tovtivilas is my Steward; King Kesgaila my Spymaster (yikes), Queen Guadimantes my Chancellor, and Duke Mindaugas my Marshal.  The County of Walcz was Vingoldas' direct control but was inherited by his second son Prince Butigeidis, and I transfered the Prince to King Tovtivilas since that was de jure Pomerania.

We've lost all the de jure lands within the Duchy of Lithaunia.  Worse, we have lost control of the holy site at Braslau and the Hall of Heroes special building located there.  Vingoldas had a lot of children, and each of them now controls a county.  Ringaudas is only left with the capital, Kernave.


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In the rest of the world, there are 3 spots that deserve closer attention.  I almost added India in too, but the only thing that seems to have changed there is that Paramara lost the Himalayan Kingdom when the Rajkumari Kalayendevi was forced to abdicate in 1143.

Side note: I really love that every Title has it's own history recorded in game, so you can go back and piece together how these things happened.




To our east a Ukonusko kingdom arises!  Queen Daria expanded her High Chiefdom of Vologda and in 1135 created the Kingdom of Bjarmaland and expanded south into the lands that are de jure to the Kingdom of Vladimir.  Her main rival is to the north where the Duchy of Biarmia has expanded.  But nobody in the region comes close to her army count of nearly 6,700.  The next strongest is actually Novgorod, who currently yields 3,000 men.  We might have some Vidilism-Ukonusko wars in our future!

Up north the Sami tribes have all splintered and are divided.  Sweden could possibly get its act together and expand here.




England is continuing to undergo massive changes as Queen Ecgwyn (our ex-wife!), continues her slow expansion.  With her father and mother both attempting and failing at taking the island outright in one big war, Ecgwyn has gone for a slower more conservative approach that appears to be paying off.  She has expanded, taking territories in Hwicce while Norway has only continued to see local lords fall out of their control.  The Petty Kingdoms of Jarnamoda, Lancaster, Sudrland, and Katanes have all broken away.  Alba has not been immune as Inverness has now broken away and become free as well.  England could come out on top here if Queen Ecgwyn continues her shrewd conquests.

And it could have been Ringaudas' children's to inherit  cry




Turns out there has been a Crusade!  I just expected I would have gotten an announcement in game or otherwise noticed it, but I suppose not.  The Byzantines had already been beating on the Fatamids and the Seljuks look to be weakened due to internal divisions (Sultan al-Muazzam Tugrul II Tugruloglu is actually about to lose another war to lower Crown Authority within his lands).  And so the Kingdom of Jerusalem has been around for the last 10 years.  With relatively weaker Isma'ili and Ash'ari states to their east, I wonder if we will see an expansion for the Crusader states?


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And finally, because I've been asked already, when Ringaudas does eventually die, unless some miracle happens that he produces his own heir the crown will most likely be passed down to his oldest half-brother, Prince Butigeidis.  Butigeidis was the brother who inherited Walcz and is now a vassal under King Tovtivilas.  He's actually a really nice looking character.


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Is it to your advantage to try to get Ringaudas killed in combat ASAP?
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(June 6th, 2021, 23:12)pindicator Wrote:
(June 6th, 2021, 22:24)Mjmd Wrote: You're saying this game is easy and yet it seems there is a lot of writing about rebellions, being broke, intrigue, and death.

Yeah, in hindsight I think the easy part was being Tribal.  I've heard that the Tribal to Feudal transition is rough, and it certainly seems to be here.

Could you please elaborate more on how the Tribal-Feudal transition is rough? Is it related to the money problems?
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(June 7th, 2021, 20:36)thestick Wrote: Could you please elaborate more on how the Tribal-Feudal transition is rough? Is it related to the money problems?

Yeah, so it hits you in two ways. You get less levies and taxes, and then things also start costing gold instead of prestige.

With levies and taxes, in Tribal you get those from your vassals depending on your Level of Fame. At the starting level, Established, you will get 8% taxes and 15% levies. As your ruler gains more Prestige and Fame, this goes up by 8/15 each level until you max at out Living Legend and are getting 40% of the taxes and 75% of the levies of each vassal. And as you saw in my first two rulers, it was relatively simple to go up in Fame. I believe Sventaragis got to the 2nd highest level Exalted Among Men, and Skirmantas got to Living Legend. So they both had a lot of gold and levies from their vassals.

By comparison, Feudal is based on contracts. Each vassal has their own contract that you can set up. The default or Normal level of taxes and levies for a Feudal vassal is only 10% taxes and 25% levies. You can negotiate higher levels if you get hooks on your vassals or trade off taxes/levies for concessions elsewhere (or just want to eat the Tyranny), going to Very High is 15% taxes / 35% levies (but -15 Opinion) and topping out at Massive for 25% taxes / 50% levies (and -25 Opinion). But even at the highest settings you are not getting as much taxes or levies as Tribal.

The second way it hits you is that things cost gold now. Men-at-arms under Tribal costs Prestige and have a monthly Prestige upkeep. Under Feudal they cost Gold. Raising your armies costs even more Gold, which is why I go into -10 Gold per Month when I go to war. Also, improving the land is more difficult as building Tribal buildings costs some Gold but mostly Prestige. Under Feudal it all costs Gold. Prestige really can't buy you much as a Feudal Lord, though there are still benefits.

So you are getting less Gold coming in from your Vassals and then everything costs more Gold to build and upkeep.

(June 7th, 2021, 19:40)Bobchillingworth Wrote: Is it to your advantage to try to get Ringaudas killed in combat ASAP?

Yeah. Actually, the game even gives him an option to Attempt Suicide (50% chance of success, either it works or all your vassals get a -30 Opinion of you). But that didn't seem in the spirit of things, so I came up with a new goal for Ringaudas.
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Also, the new 1.4 Patch came out today and I am happy to see that the save is compatible!  Here is the link to the full patch notes if you want to sift through all that, but I'm going to highlight some of the ones that are relevant to complaints I've made earlier in the thread.  Or there's the more entertaining "What the patch notes really mean" thread on reddit.

But some of my highlights (taken from the reddit thread):
  • Shy characters no longer gain stress from personal schemes. They're just really, really bad at them.
  • Characters with 80+ opinion will no longer join a faction because even though they love you, they think you're a shit king.
  • AI armies should no longer ignore an ongoing battle that they couldn't win on their own and watch their friends get butchered just because it doesn't look like something they could win on their own.
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(June 8th, 2021, 10:12)pindicator Wrote:
  • AI armies should no longer ignore an ongoing battle that they couldn't win on their own and watch their friends get butchered just because it doesn't look like something they could win on their own.


Is that why the enemy AI was so passive before?  Because they couldn't account for their friends' troops combined with their own?  That would be a problem in any multinational alliance like, say, a Crusade.  tongue


It also seems strange that CK3 doesn't announce a Crusade.  In CK2 you'd get a notification about whatever "evil Caliph/Sultan" the Pope wants to kill.  Or maybe you only receive the announcement if you're playing as a Christian ruler?
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Yeah, looking back that sounds like exactly why I was able to win some earlier wars that I maybe should not have. They also did some AI changes for kingdoms with Brave or Stupid rulers, making them less cautious in picking battles.
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(June 8th, 2021, 11:17)pindicator Wrote: Yeah, looking back that sounds like exactly why I was able to win some earlier wars that I maybe should not have.  They also did some AI changes for kingdoms with Brave or Stupid rulers, making them less cautious in picking battles.


Please tell me there's a scenario in this game where you can play as Childeric the Stupid.
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So...what's the benefit of going Feudal?
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(June 8th, 2021, 12:05)Commodore Wrote: So...what's the benefit of going Feudal?

Longterm gains. Tribal has a lot of penalties that prevent you from developing with it.  Tribal is stuck on the first tech era and there are 3 levels after (Early, High, and Late Medieval). Tribal can't build additional buildings in empty baronies. They don't get access to anything over a level 1 Keep or Level 2 regular buildings. You don't get Duchy-tier buildings. They're stuck in Confederate Partition inheritance law. And they can't increase Development in a county (well, they can it just doesn't give them any additional taxes or levies).
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