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(July 23rd, 2021, 21:19)rekenner Wrote: One of my ongoing thoughts / a comment I've made is that I wish the rules for this were a bit more well defined. And things like "fish for fish = peace", etc were written laid out somewhere. I knew about that, but mostly because I've picked through random old game reports
Fish/fish = peace isnt a rule. Just a general "hey this is what this means, but nothing is binding"
For example.. Ive sent Fish/Fish messages to someone and then attacked them soon after. /pats JoshyBravo
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. ![[Image: noidea.gif]](https://www.realmsbeyond.net/forums/images/smilies/noidea.gif) In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
July 23rd, 2021, 21:41
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(July 23rd, 2021, 21:38)superdeath Wrote: (July 23rd, 2021, 21:19)rekenner Wrote: One of my ongoing thoughts / a comment I've made is that I wish the rules for this were a bit more well defined. And things like "fish for fish = peace", etc were written laid out somewhere. I knew about that, but mostly because I've picked through random old game reports
Fish/fish = peace isnt a rule. Just a general "hey this is what this means, but nothing is binding"
For example.. Ive sent Fish/Fish messages to someone and then attacked them soon after. /pats JoshyBravo
I would say it depends on the player. Some people are a lot more careful with their fish/fish (or similar deals) than others, there's a whole spectrum really. Some people won't make them at all, preferring to keep their options open. If you can be bothered, reading past games will often give you a decent idea for a given player.
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I usually assume fish/fish is at least 10 turns.
Any war resource (copper, iron, horse) for the same usually along with declare war on whomever is a suggestion or acceptance of alliance.
Once currency comes online you can add amounts ect.
You can also try to do more complicated messages like in PB56 where I sent Vanrober a message using resource symbols basically saying don't chop my forest or it will be war.
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... I would like an elaboration on how you portrayed that just via the diplo screen, because that's amazing.
July 24th, 2021, 09:19
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Spoiler: i got atacked and killed xdddd.
Mjmd is the king of trying hard things on diplo and none understanding hahahaha
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(July 24th, 2021, 09:19)vanrober Wrote: Spoiler: i got atacked and killed xdddd.
Mjmd is the king of trying hard things on diplo and none understanding hahahaha
Look at pb43 if you want to see "trying hard on diplo and none understanding"
(JR4 not getting the hints that Mr.Cairo was about to win and needed to be stopped.. multiple AI-Diplo messages related to resources on his border WITH cairo... Ignored.)
"Superdeath seems to have acquired a rep for aggression somehow. In this game that's going to help us because he's going to go to the negotiating table with twitchy eyes and slightly too wide a grin and terrify the neighbors into favorable border agreements, one-sided tech deals and staggered NAPs."
-Old Harry. PB48.
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(July 24th, 2021, 09:16)rekenner Wrote: ... I would like an elaboration on how you portrayed that just via the diplo screen, because that's amazing.
Quote: (January 9th, 2021, 01:54)Mjmd Wrote: Foreign news. Van sent fish for fish. As that was the plan I sent it back without really thinking about it. I then of course was looking around and he has 3!!!! workers for the forest NE of Arp....... So I of course moved all my units there and didn't double play the turn. I sent him a nice diplo message of sheep, fish, corn for copper. Hopefully he can figure it out! Did I overreact for 30 hammers? Maybe maybe. Is he needlessly antagonizing me for 13 hammers? Also yes. He moved his warrior back that has been keeping a tab on my units though. I'm assuming he is actually moving units towards ruff. His power did spike! I am of course bluffing my arse off.
Basically I used the resources the city had around it as part of the message. Which you can also try using to say to an ally "attack here" or "you get this city and I get this one". Zero guarantee people understand. Mind you the more complicated the message the easier it is to be misunderstood which is also hilarious (mainly in hindsight).
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I am very interested in playing a civ 4 multiplayer game, but I have no idea how to find one and what to do
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Hi Charlie,
this game already started, so you would have to wait until another does. Look out for new PB threads in the 'Civilization General Discussion' section of the forum. I'm pretty sure another one will start in 1-2 month, but it may not be a dedicated green game like this one. You then just write there that you want to join the game.
Glad to have you join a game.
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I would like to add that eventhough this game already started you might want to follow it. there is 2 options, you can read all the threads to get a global idea about the game (becoming a global lurker) or you could ask someone that already is playing to see his thoughts and dedicate exclusively to that thread, becoming a dedlurker.
In any of this cases make sure to see the rules of the forum so you dont make any mistakes. Anything you want here we are, im glad to have you around!
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