[PB61 spoilers] vanrober lonely in a green field

[Tarkeel]

Yeah, I think it's perfectly fair that you get that lucky roll reinstated after the reloads.

If it's the full 20 hammers you get, I'd say that easily outweights one turn of a city. 20-16=4 hammers on the other hand is more marginal.

[vanrober]

I put the settler on the forest hill this turn and with him 2 workers, so next turn both workers will chop and the settler will be waiting 1 more turn and the next turn ill chop the forest with one of those workers then settle then move the other worker to start the deer and the turn after the deer will be done. If it makes sense, so i agree its worth to wait that turn.

[vanrober]

I could play now but im going to wait for josh to play.

 As i said on then first turn 100 i think Josh greeded too much, and instead of claiming the calendar resources he just wanted to settle it on my face just because, i really cant find any reason to may an ugly border, if he would settle 1 north of that tile he would still have the banana, the sugar and the dye. And the best culture would get the contested second ring, but this way he is just claiming my second ring and not defending the city trusting too much on my good will, i could take the settler of the east on turn 99 and i didnt so that now i can burn his banana city. Maybe now i find that he somehow defended it but being jesse atacking i do doubt it.

Also i think josh is much stronger than jesse, and the only way to slow josh down into the conquer of jessy is burning one of his cities. Not much after i really want to peace after that. I guess he doesnt want a double front war.

What could happen so i dont atack josh? easy, i want to be his best friend ever and to be true i want to be the only one of his neighbours with OB, i asked to cancel OB with bellarch, it would be really mean by my if i ask him to do so and then i declare war to him and make him lose all the TR. So if he canceled OB with his best contender to win (which it doesnt sound really crazy for me) Then i will be his friend (taking his forest first, ofc.)

And the other option would be i see him with with a really nice defense and praets around, on the last turn he didnt have iron yet.

[vanrober]

turn 101

Ohw god this is the diplo turn 

   

   

   

   

Interesting the diplo from josh, does it mean that he is willing to stop trading with bellarch for 10  turns? Or what exactly? Im not sure at all. He wants me to atack jesse instead of him, which makes sense, but my plan wasnt that. I have all my units on his land not close to jesse, i would need 7 or 8 turns to get to him and he is making construction, when i get there he will have got everything already.

Bellarch is offering 3gpt? he is crazy, he is getting so much more gold than that, if you want to buy my interest buy it with more money bro. I asked him back 10gpt which i think its much more realistic, even more when he see josh canceled borders hehehehe, just bing is giving OB for 2gpt xD. He has currency and TGLH and no TR, im a bit sad of him. But hey, i want to win the game.

Also on the josh diplo im really lost, he finally canceled OB with bellarch which means i make honor to my word and didnt atack, although im choping his forests. So what was meant to mean that diplo? i have no clue.

On the micro, i miss math on Violet i thought i was 2 whiping for tons of OF in 2 turns, but it seems that is 3whip, not 2, i think i can still make it to get the colossus on the same time, since luckily ill grow on the whip turn so will get those 20h. i jsut lose 5h of OF which i think they are minor.

Now i need to think if i should delay the chop of one forest to make some axes with barracs promo with the chop or if it would be best to get the forge instead.

Im scouting rekenner with a chariot and his cities are 1 pop, and he is bringing with empties cities all units towards Bing, im amazed with the hate between this 2 guys. Rekenner has my power and i have tons of pop in comparizon and still a decent stack of 12 or 14 units, his stack has to be massive (i saw 12 skirmishes several turns ago, so i guess he doubled the amount). Getting HBR in 2 turns then swaping to slavery and getting them done in every city, i hope i can get him to grownd and be able to stack some workers into chopping courthouses while getting caste to wrok on merch to limp into currency. I really didnt expect caste into merch as good as it is, maybe i should have slow build more settlers make less courthouses and just be on caste working one merch actually. Amazing. Ill just farm all the tiles of rekenner i think. god bless rep+merch

[civac2]

Do you have 3 or 4 yield trade routes in your cities already?

[vanrober]

No, ofc not. There is on islands on the map as far as i know so all TR are 2gpt. Iw as actually thinking i was giving 24 gpt to him, but in reality its just 12gpt, so i basillay asked for the 90% of the gold which is not acceptable...

I should not do many of this late night turns xD Ill ask for 5gpt next turn which seems more resonable.

[vanrober]

turn 102

Maybe he is just more needed of gold xD

   

So after this extorsion, i took care of the micro of Violet, i was thinking on moving 2 workers to whop 2 forest this turn, but actually that would be bad since i cant put more hammers into the forge or ill lose hammers, so instead ill make 1 road in 1 silver and one turn after ill chop colossus.

On marygold ill take the chops into HA, so ill make severals on the city that will start the atack. I need 2 workers on the hill next to Heather but it should be fine, ill whip a courthouse there and also in orchid next turn, which will boost my economy out of caste. Ill 3 whip another forge on Daisy in some turns too hopefully making HA faster.

Settled the new city called Poppy. And im running out of Actualy flower woman names, there is several names related to flowers as names but not actual flowers that i have found. So should i start making standard flower names now or it would be better to keep making female names related to flowers, but not flowers itself?

[El Grillo]

I’d lean towards flower names, I think it’s a more distinct theme.

[Charriu]

Can you give us the F1 screen, then we can help you out with more names.

[Charriu]

Here are some more:

Leilani
Marguerite
Fleur
Azalea
Alyssa
Jasmine
Cassia
Erica
Aster
Marigold
Bryony
Primrose
Dahlia
Holly
Ivy
Sage