[PB61] Lurker Thread

[El Grillo]

Isn’t that just playing civ4 as the developers originally intended?

Also, looks like construction and bridges finished just on the right turn for the Roman units to attack favorably. I trust Amicalola to have whips prepared for a big batch of catapults following this, so hopefully Jesse realizes he might be in trouble and responds accordingly.

[civac2]

Amicalola said his micro got screwed up because Construction didn't finish as expected.

[Fabled]

Are PB games usually this much of a bloodbath? The amount of aggression here is surprising to me, but all my experience is in single player.

[Charriu]

Usually there is more fighting between humans, but it's not the rule. Except for rekenner and Bing this was a rather peaceful game until T100. Their fight is definitely unusual.

Also don't be surprised that the game may end before the modern era. I think the last game that went there and had a proper win was PB43

[civac2]

This game is not particularly bloody. There were two wars, one with a brief pause in between. Jessel's war was doomed from the start and he should have not started it. rekenner's chariot rush could have worked. He made an appropriate amount of units but it seems he used them badly. Reporting was too sporadic to say for sure. The second war declaration appears to be a way to commit honorary suicide. An AI game could easily have a similar amount of fighting at this point (or more). Just picture rekenner as Monti.

[El Grillo]

The chariot attack might have succeeded under different circumstances (e.g. Bing not starting with Hunting, copper being more exposed or not settled immediately, slightly luckier scouting timing), but early rushes are always unreliable.

I’m looking forward to how vanrober’s attack works out. My first impression is that he needs way more HAs, not necessarily to take the cities from Mali, but to keep them from Mongolia.

[Sullla]

Rekenner's chariot attack was never going to work. He whipped his empire into oblivion to mass chariots against an opponent who already had copper connected and whose border city was on top of a hill:




Bing also started the initial war so it's not as though this was an unexpected sneak attack with the advantage of surprise. Rekenner made the bizarre decision to throw his entire game away smashing chariots into spears sitting inside cities because a neighbor sniped a scouting warrior in 2000 BC. It's one of the more disappointing outcomes I can remember in recent Pitboss games given how multiple different veteran dedlurkers had signed up to help provide feedback. Grillo and I played a long-running series of Gloomhaven games (online boardgame) with rekenner during the last year and it was baffling to see such a poor level of gameplay out of him. Better luck next time I guess.

[civac2]

Bing was surprised, however. He very reasonably did not expect rekenner to go into doomsday mode over one scouting warrior. Bing also did not seem to have rekenner's graphs and so did not see the military buildup coming. If rekenner had concentrated his chariots he may have been able to take the copper city, maybe with one or two axes as backup.

[Charriu]

When Jesse starts whipping hardcore, there's going to be a disgusting number of PRO archers to kill.

Because we can't see this due to 'no score' and Jesse isn't reporting so much. Jesse did indeed whip away at least 5 pop on T106 and 8 pop on T109. So yes he is whipping.

[Tarkeel]

That's good to hear.