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[PB61 spoilers] vanrober lonely in a green field

wtf josh declared war on me? didnt i sent him a peace dec?? I thought i had 10 turns free!!!
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(October 7th, 2021, 14:16)vanrober Wrote: wtf josh declared war on me? didnt i sent him a peace dec?? I thought i had 10 turns free!!!

There's no enforced peace symbol in the screenshots where you're at peace, so it must have been a ceasefire offer.
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Yeah i now see it. OMG i played thinking we were in enforced peace. What a huge mistake, i had a hidden stack ready to take one of his cities and i didnt because of the peace, then i moved it and he will reinforce next turn. Im really sad.
Also i really dont understand this change of behaviour, his only chance to win the game is crushing Bellarch, that has fallen in 3rd position of power. And he is even almost just making infra, if he consolidates his 26 cities and being fin it will be just free win for him. Ofc the other solution makes me the clear winner of the game, but he atacking me wont make any wins, my HE city is in his border, same with my capitol, just all my units are closer to him tahn to belalrch so obv i will defend my core before the renekers land, so Bellarch will just get free land (if he makes units, now... i cant understand those eco buildings) and same with bing...

   

Anyway its fine, im having a lot of fun in this game, and its not over yet, i think i have still some options, in a couple of turns ill get cuirs going out, but still they 3 outproduce me. and in the very first moment i start losing cities ill lose production, also i will run out of GA in some turns, so they will even outproduce me more.

I have happy issues right now, so i cannot go to PS, ill swap to nationalism in 3 turns and wil ltry to draft some, but i have no other metals, and rekener and me had the same happy resources so i didnt gain anything with my wars, when josh and bellarch did win new resources. Its gonna be a hard endgame to win.



Ill lose all my stack to save myself from the 50 units stack of bing (a bit less but 50 sounds better) So im not really optimistic about my game anymore. My bad i guess for not getting the city of Josh this turn, i should have seen the enforced peace...

I asked peace to belalrch and josh. I didnt do any agresion to none of them so i dont see why wouldnt they get it.... (i do think why, they want me dead)

Bing decided so long ago i was his victim instead of Bellarch that has more cities and he is completely empty to bellarch.

Odds:60% bellarch 40% me 0% josh and Bing.

Belalrch is completely free to consolidate, he has enforced peace with josh (i cannot ask josh to atack belalrch) and bing for some reason wanted to kill me, when bellarch took his gems... He is FIN with several GG and several eco wonders. He is making banking to get merchantilism and will get some super GA with MoM making him the king of the earth.

My only advantage is the tech one and right now, hammer one. I ve been counting and losing serfdom into slavery would destroy my production and economy, i would need to take really expensive trades of food to hamemrs to make the cuirs out of whips, i dont think its worth, although i might need to do it to exploit my advantage. If i can get some happy out of josh and some more production i might be able to handle Bellarch, but i see it really not likely, Right now all my stack is with bing, he has >50 units when i have less than 30, tmines are much better, true, but he still outnumber me, so i cannot push into josh, also he has already 18 knights and he is moving towards me instead of towards bellarch, when i have not a real defense there. So once i take the stack of bing, to heal and move those knights towards josh would take too much, also, belalrch is building up a good amount of units to threat the little front we have, so i cant really move my stack from the city its on.
So i think i depend more on ttheir fail than in my play. I guess they are greens and they can make mistakes...

Next turn i get my last 5 knights, the turn after ill get cuirs and ill sawp to nat and theo, and proabbly ill need to think if slavery or keep in serfdom, same with losing Rep for PS... too many civic doubts
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Not sure if you can give me your opinions about slavery vs serfdom this late in game. If you can it would be apreciated
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You are spiritual you can have both.
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not at the same time, 5 turns now seems a lot to me, isnt it?
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(October 7th, 2021, 17:07)vanrober Wrote: not at the same time, 5 turns now seems a lot to me, isnt it?

I dont recall... if there is a large food surplus having workshops would be pretty nice right? If so, Caste System wouldnt be terrible.

On the other hand, they have buffed Serfdom and ive heard that it works pretty well. A better shot of your homeland might help me anyway.
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-Old Harry. PB48.
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How far away are you from RepParts? That's when serfdom really starts to shine, and I'd start thinking of swapping to mills. Also, see my generic post on serfdom.
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I have doubts you can afford to not be in Slavery in a real war. Unless the war is very protracted.
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Drafted rifles is one of the few things that can cover for not running slavery in a war, IMHO.
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