[SPOILERS] Woden and ljubljana like boats

[ljubljana]

One more thing in addition to the special session: Russia also freed my GA this turn. Is that an argument for me taking Marshall Mathers LP so I can teleport him over and boost my ships? I think probably not, it will only take about 3 turns to get there from Fort Lakton, but they could be 3 decisive turns if Australia goes for an attack...

My current thoughts are: call the special session for 30 favor, but don't vote on it, and teleport the GA to Fort Lakton and wait the 3 turns. What do you think, though?

[Woden]

I say save the favor for the next World Congress.

[Woden]

One more thing in addition to the special session: Russia also freed my GA this turn. Is that an argument for me taking Marshall Mathers LP so I can teleport him over and boost my ships? I think probably not, it will only take about 3 turns to get there from Fort Lakton, but they could be 3 decisive turns if Australia goes for an attack...

My current thoughts are: call the special session for 30 favor, but don't vote on it, and teleport the GA to Fort Lakton and wait the 3 turns. What do you think, though?

The coal is more valuable right now and if I take the city, it will get 300HP walls thanks to Urban Defenses. As for the World Congress, who the fuck is calling these? What the waste of a turn on an already slow game. I wouldn't waste the favor. What are the benefits? I would be the only one to send you gold.

[ljubljana]

The benefit would be that Australia would probably dump more than 30 favor to make 100% sure they defeat it. But of course we have no guarantee that would happen, and yeah it is a waste of a turn. I'm fine with not calling it.

[ljubljana]

Turn 175 - Phoenicia



Got in some okay damage against some Cossacks, but the real story on that front is you killing the Cossack corps that went for your GP - nice job! Russia blew all their faith on...something over the last two turns, which makes me pretty nervous - I think your allocating most of your new ships to Cossack sneak attack patrol is looking like a good call. Anyways, my first Pike/Shot is on the field with 5 more to come over the next 3 turns (one is in Geneva offscreen), so I think we will be able to limit the damage this initial wave can do. I think I will feel pretty safe dropping Grande Armee for Limes when Urbanization comes in at this rate.

I don't know why Russia freed my GA - I guess they felt they needed all their ships available to limit your movements? But I'm not complaining, and he of course teleports to Fort Lakton to reinforce my remaining fleet.

And, of course, I upgraded our precious fleet ironclad to keep pace with williams' ad hoc Civ6 debugging speed. Sent you back all the extra coal, gold, and niter. I think I will want one more frigate upgrade if williams comes for Cuneiform, and will want to power my clads once they need to fight, but otherwise I'm on board with keeping you supplied for frigate construction and eventual battleship upgrades for now.



Stupid instant walls have been leveled, but ugh, this is my fault. I should have known this could have happened and reduced the city health all the way to 0, sorry about that. I get in two good hits at SFFB, and its walls should be toast next turn as well. Australia does have a fair few ships in range and can hit me next turn, but he shouldn't kill more than maybe one caravel. If Russia's ships come up, meanwhile, I think we can first strike them into oblivion next turn while holding Australia off at the narrows with a pair of fleet caravels.

[Woden]

I forgot to mention on my turn report, my city attacks are at 55 CS, meaning I do not have the fleet frigate attack strength but rather a single frigate attack strength. Looks like it works the same as the DS. Luckily, I will upgrade a corps crossbow into a corps field cannon in a few turns and should increase my city attack to 70. I also have to be aware of this when battleships and armadas come into play. I think my next civic goal will be the civic that allows armadas. It is a few civic off but I should be able to get most of the boosts (at lets the ones I see).

[ljubljana]

Sounds good to me. Wow, what a well-coded game this is

[Woden]

Well, he was able to destroy all my ships.  I am a little surprised he could get them all but he must have more firepower in the area than I initial assumed. I think now, our goal should be to do as much damage to Australia and hope he shifts some boats over that way. Then, pray you can survive for the next 20 turns. I think if that happens, I should get to battleships, destroyers, and armadas and start to turn this game around.

Over at Australia...
   

Roland finally moved up his navy. Also, william482 moved his ironclad up just enough for me to hopefully kill it. It will mean I need one of the tiles that you could hit SFFB with a frigate but I think getting the fleet ironclad out of action is better... As I write this up, I decided to engage and there are 2 fleet caravels, a frigate, and 2 quadriremes that I can see. We will need to get rid of these before we push along their southern coast. 

I think you should send back 4 or 5 of your frigates to fight roland and the rest can fight Russia/attack SFFB. If we can take SFFB in 3 turns, I am going to swap into the upgrade card for a turn and can upgrade the few fleet caravels I have down there and then hopefully clean out anymore Russian ships that show up.

[Woden]

Turn 175-Vikings
I was able to kill the fleet ironclad...
   

I also double pillaged the harbor at SFFB. If you can bring any ships down that aren't otherwise engaged in something else, we can remove this little fleet next turn. I also easily took TMMLP and redlined the crossbow roland wisely took out of the city. I started a frigate and bought a builder to hook up the coal.  

Here is what roland's fleet looks like...
   

I think if you bring 4 or 5 frigates up here, you can hold the line with your caravels and kill units with your frigates, you should easily be able to hold him off. Also, you will notice I have a few ironclads finishing in 4 and 5 turns that can help out holding the line and eat through his units. I think if it is hard for Russia to take your cities and we can eat through Australia's navy and cities, it will force him to think about pealing off some ships to come over here and slow him down on our main island.

Things may look hopeless now but I think we can beat him to battleships and destroyers and armadas and may be able to turn this around. Speaking of battleships, Russia spent a shit ton of gold this turn, like 1,600. He might of upgraded a bunch of stuff but he was short on coal few turns back so not caravels or he could have bough something to help him located a tech, like a coal plant? His GE points a few turns didn't indicate he had a factory, let alone a Coal Plant but I spotted one at his capital. Maybe he finished a factory and then bought the plant this turn? Regardless, he knows where battleships are located. Luckily, he should still be short on coal and he can only get science form campuses. I have located a bunch of mines to help speed me to the tech.

[Woden]

If you were to go back to T173 and replay the battle, is there something you'd do differently?

If we are playing that game, I would go back and make then upgrade a fleet quad so my cities attack at 65 instead of 55. Then I would have killed the ironclad and made some headway at the start of this engagement. But as far as going back to T173, I could have retreated a little south to narrow the number of attacks or pushed on his eastern flank and used Balder's island to protect my flank. But he probably would have sailed around and still surrounded me. Either of those probably would of only added a turn or 2 to their survival. The whole point of that fleet was to distract and delay Russia so ljubljana could get better prepared for Russia's attack and it seemed to work so far.  He hasn't conquered a mainland city yet and pillaging has been limited. Hopefully, we can get some pike and shots and field cannons out before he can really put the pressure on.