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(October 30th, 2022, 21:25)Amicalola Wrote: Looks like it was incredibly close. Congratulations! Toot

Are the fears he may not leave peacefully realistic?

It's realistic (I just look at what the police were doing on election day - trying to suppress votes in particularly the pro-Lula northeast), but the question is "10% chance, 50%, or 90% chance of Bolsonaro causing trouble?"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/202...ppression/
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(October 31st, 2022, 07:01)Cyneheard Wrote:
(October 30th, 2022, 21:25)Amicalola Wrote: Looks like it was incredibly close. Congratulations! Toot

Are the fears he may not leave peacefully realistic?

It's realistic (I just look at what the police were doing on election day - trying to suppress votes in particularly the pro-Lula northeast), but the question is "10% chance, 50%, or 90% chance of Bolsonaro causing trouble?"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/202...ppression/

And update: Bolsonaro is standing down:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Rkrahenbuhl/s...5185240066
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I was elated as well. Hope Lula can achieve something with a Congress that ... I don't quite understand how it works, there's just so many parties? But he's done it before right? The question might be if this time he can do it with less kickbacks?

Bolsonaro apparently going " I'm not going to contest the result but not going to concede either" just encapsulates how pathetic it all is.
Isn't it anyways a huge confession of incompetence if you are the federal government and say yourself beforehand that you are expecting fraud in the federal election? Like whose job would it be to prevent that?
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Nice leftist democratically elected leader you have there, would be a shame if something were to happen to it.

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I would like to predict NATO implements a no fly zone / air defense over the western 50 miles? of Ukraine. Place your bets.
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I wouldn't bet against that. Sounds plausible.
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Don't think that's likely to happen, for two reasons: First of, it would mean the Ukrainian Airforce can't operate there either, and from what I can tell they've been flying more than the Russians. Secondly, enforcing it would mean firing on Russian planes, which would give them the long awaited provocation to escalate.

More likely it will mean more material support, and loosening of target restrictions. Ie, being able to strike targets on Russian soil with HIMARS.
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(October 30th, 2022, 19:17)Ichabod Wrote: The nightmare is finally going to be over. Four years of being governed by a person that hates our country. Four years of hate, it was very tough. Four years of discrimination, finally over. I’m very emotional right now and I really hope things will get better. 

Bolsonaro is finally out.

I just heard about what's happening in Brazil today. It's appalling, shocking. I hope the nightmare really ends at some point.
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Who else thinks that Russia is going to use tactical nukes soon(within 2years)?
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I'm not saying 0% because autocrats can get pretty crazy when things go bad, but the whole nuke game is always bluff, because shockingly the goal of leading a state isn't to see it reduced to rubble. Even if he used on a small scale (like 1 or 2 try to pass it off as terroists ect) even China would turn on Putin then and the absolute minimum response would be massive total sanctions plus any Russian forces in Ukraine would go bye/bye as EU / NATO intervened.
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