New EitB PBEM

[Tarkeel]

Miguelito:
Varn Gosam of the Malakim
Garrim Gyr of the Luchuirp
Flauros of the Calabim

Brian:
Arturus Thorne of the Khazad
Enion Logos of the Elohim
Mahala of the Dovellio

Q:
Arendal Phaedra of the Ljolsofar
Jonas Endain of the Clan
Rhoanna of the Hippus

Auro:
Faeryl Viconia of the Svartalfar
Falamar of the Lanun
Averax the Cambion of the Sheaim

Bing:
Auric Ulvin of the Illians
Shekinah of the Sidar
Dain the Caswallawn of the Amurites

[Miguelito]

Thanks Tarkeel!
Q, do we already have the mod for this game ready? I need to install to see what traits those leaders have and what they mean

[Tarkeel]

You're welcome. I figured I was probably the best option to randomize, as I have no idea what any of that means, but I'll try to lurk this one too.

[Brian Shanahan]

Sorry, been checked out of the thread the last few days, we've had a flood of training and police certs to organise at work on top of my usual quota of collection permits and traffic accodent abstracts.

On the picks for the game, I'm easy on when we submit them, pre or post map reveal. In terms of email I'm briandmoseanachain at gmail &c and in terms of window weekdays is 6:00 to 11:00 pm Irish time on weekdays (though every other Wednesday will be post 10:00 due to Toastmasters). Weekends are flexible.

On Q's succession game idea, I'd love to join in, but summer'd probably be better as this game would be bedded in.

PS are we playing with Qs changes?

[Qgqqqqq]

Thanks Tarkeel! I already know who I'm going to pick

Imo we should play with my changes (note there is a bug with Bannor State, so just ignore that civic), though as I've said, we can restore bronze weapons to warriors if you'd prefer. Mig, it doesn't change any traits, so just install EitB v12 the normal way - and if you're ready, download and paste the asset files over the relevant ones.

Edit: in terms of play time, my preferred window is 5am GMT to 10am GMT (6-11pm NZT), and I can be found at hawk 2370 at the usually googly place.

[Miguelito]

- in favour of the proposed changes

- my normal play window is something like 20-23 GMT (21-24 CET)

- Q, where do I get the assetfiles? Or are they what you are going to release to patch in the changes? I remember there was a 12.1 version that I downloaded from some dropbox before PBEM54, but that should not be required in this case, right?

[Qgqqqqq]

They're attached here. I will add them to the EitB thread, however.

[Aurorarcher]

Sorry for not being active in the thread. Anyway, everything written by Q (the changes) are fine by me. I like the change to warriors, nice idea Q! My best playing time is 18:00 - 22:00 GMT.

Decided full settings somewhere? Start techs etc. ? Or is it this:

    So, let's talk settings:

    Basic (should be non-controversial):

        no Acheron
        no Orthus
        no tech trading
        no vassals
        AI diplo
        no huts
        regular barbs
        Quick speed


    Open for discussion:

        no lairs? I don't feel strongly
        Difficulty - Emperor? Immortal?
        Wildlands (enjoy in SP, but understand if we'd rather not)
        Strongly prefer Living World but would be fine if we'd prefer not
        Unique features? No strong preference, they can be fun though sometimes unbalanced (specifically Yggdrassil or if you prefer no lairs)


    Map:

        Based on our mapmaker, I think I'd prefer generated, lightly edited. In terms of settings, I like the script/settings used in PB64 (though given balancing through civs there might be issues with lack of terrain)
        Size, perhaps slightly more than PB69 per player? Not sure quite how much that is.
        I'll add a bunch of notes about how to balance for FFH2 later (e.g. managing coast etc.)


        Climate? No preference
        Blessings of Amatheon? I don't mind - FFH2 MP tends to leave this on by default but I've been playing a few games with it off and enjoying it. 


    Have I missed anything?

    In terms of start, as I see it there are three options (assuming we don't want to fool around with late-game start):

        Normal start, no change
        Discovery (see here for a breakdown)
        Modified Discovery (my preference). 

    I would modify Discovery to: remove Hunting, Bronze Working, Archery (as these give tier 2 units - I think the rationale for including them is to allow all tiles to be modified). I can also see an argument for adding a warrior and/or scout, and a worker - both these would just speed up the game by 20ish turns. I could also see an argument for removing Mysticism, as it makes it very fast to get a religion, and everyone just revolts to Godking T1. For a similar reason I could see an argument for adding Hunting, as otherwise FotL is artificially further away than the other two religions.

In terms of picking civ/leader, as discussed earlier I would favour picking from three randomly generated.

[Aurorarcher]

Also. New assets files to EitB 12.1. or to EitB 12? Or does it even matter?

EDIT: I noticed anyone can revolt to Bannor State on T1. I guess this is not supposed to be the case?

[Qgqqqqq]

Yes that's an error with Bannor State. I can fix it (though we can also all ignore it). It shouldn't matter what the files called though, let's just call it EitB v12

We probably should have decided this earlier, but what starting techs? I'd say Discovery minus Archery/Bronze Working.

Re diplomacy, I assume AI? We've done a public diplo thread in the past, which i could take or leave.