[PB65 Mjmd] Off to Sea Once More

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pindicator

I'd think 65 shows the Madrassa is clearly stronger for Great People generation

I think PB65 shows that Cornflakes is just really good lol. 

Again, I have doubts Pin used well this game.

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T153 

Whenever I play this song, it is usually because some plan or other is in motion and I'm half proud of it.



The plan isn't actually that complicated...........

Plan:
Step 1) GET MY STUFF BACK!!!!!!!!! If you ever piss me off and you realize you've been an idiot in a game, just give me my stuff back. 
- Now obviously stepping into enemy culture when your enemy has cats is always iffy, so I just decided not to 

 Edit: picture is from after I ended turn.



About the time I stopped being sick my brain suddenly realized I could build culture and I wasn't THAT far away from 4th ring in James Craig and of course since I used to have cities over there, I still had majority culture over key tiles.

Do I have too many cats over here, yes. Settler is there to hopefully signal to Pin that this is about getting my spots back. Grimsby has a settler for Outer Track resettle so both will be resettled next turn.


In a side query I'm going to have to look at Cornflakes thread to see how the hell he got copper in time to hold off my early metal units. It is 2nd ring. Should I be scouting his advance better instead of checking this out. Probably...... Especially as my sentry chariots last move over by SaC capital now puts it near a Pin chariot with combat I.

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T154

Pin evacuated one and put a longbow in the other combined with whipping walls. Due to a friend wanting to hang out I was playing fast and missed the walls, so only bombarded after the first attack (I sent one cat in first), then sent the two swords as that is why they existed, lost 1 axe, and then won with 2 elephants. Resettled both cities. Step 1 complete.

Step 2:

Get peace with Pin. Listen enraged me wanted to throw this game to Cornflakes. I've cooled down a little bit. Sadly Pin doesn't have a lot of gold this turn, I asked for Risk and then I asked for his measly sum of gold, BECAUSE

Step 3:

Invade SaC - ya that started THIS turn. The first knights I whipped didn't go west or south, they went NE. I'm also inching my stacks that direction.

IE the plan is basically the original plan of take SaC stuff, try to hit Cornflakes in weak culture, but then also hope somehow to balance him and Pin. Oh and SD exists?

If this doesn't show I'm a hopeless optimist I don't know what does. I really should just throw this to Cornflakes.

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T158



You can inform the other players.

Anyways, not my longest chain ever, but might be my longest pitboss chain? Allowed me to swap around some food.

I am VERY broke. Something about whipping a lot and never building courthouses. I've CAUTIOUSLY started doing non military builds. Cornflakes just sent back fish for fish while maintaining a very large amount of units near me. Anyways, I imagine I'm trying to limp towards cannon?

If Pin doesn't betray SD, I might have to do some military whips while I'm still over in SaC land. My stack FINALLY got there so advancing on next city.

[Ginger*]

I'm curious how whipped-down you are as a result of recent wars, pop would be how I'd gauge it looking in game but I don't want to foist math upon you so I'll just ask:
How many turns it will take you to grow back to the pre-war economic status quo?

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Again, part of it was also I should have been building courthouses during that time, but there are some cities still recovering. I only lost a middling production city in grey funnel line and then two new cities, but ya my economy isn't great and wouldn't have been great even unmolested (at least in comparison), which again is why I'M SUPER CONFUSED ABOUT PINS ATTACK!!!

Anyways,



Pump Shanty was at 2 pop, but thanks to 3 food resources is pretty much back up. The main cities still recovering are (left to right) James Craig, Star County Down, and Hundred Years ago. A common theme with these is 1 food and want to work plains or grassland hill cottages. Star County Down did just take the plains deer to help it regrow, but I may switch it back soon if I think I'm actually serious about a 3rd GA.

Just to reiterate Pins UTTER STUPIDITY:



I don't have Pins graphs, but I would guess he is above me and laughable behind Cornflakes, who just got Spiral Mineret. Now just pure number of production queues it is possible to stop Cornflakes still, but Pin is going to have to actually do something. Its hard because they barely touch. Its possible the best hope is Pin hits SD and then Cornflakes and Pin get into a bloody brawl over SD remains. Meanwhile I conquer rest of SaC and then sit back and make Pin beg me to help him.

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T160

I'm pretty sure I don't want to build this to sim, but just in case.

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T161

It could have gone worse I suppose. I maybe had 1 knight live more than average and 1-2 elephant and 1 axe died that shouldn't have. I basically had the choice this turn of extra 5% defensive bonus on everything vs 4 more cats. The quickest of world builds (I used a protective leader and didn't give myself or them any other promos) revealed better than this, but I think I didn't put in enough soaker junk. Ah well. Sadly not a lot of my units got promos (as most were at 5 exp so they ended up with 8 or 9). I am very much regretting sending back 4 random axes (I just got fish for fish with Pin but this was before that, wasn't sure how far in advance of treaty expiring I should send). Although I think he had like 4 flawless wins with his GG longbow vs cats that probably helped.



Anyways, next turn those 4 additional cats need to go in anyways, so maybe a mistake, but at least 14 longbows don't have extra 5%. Ya prob still a move. Ah well.

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T164

Long time no post. I literally added "my home" to the end of this city name. I don't think I'll be able to continue this trend .



I'm still marching. I've included cleanup of forces from turns ago. Zu should fall next turn to brute force knights. Capital in two turns.



I have a interesting quandary. I can't take the last SaC city in SE. No one but Cornflakes can as due to his culture he can always just take it away. However, if I leave it, others can use it to land a force on the grassland hill outside his city. It at least makes that a threat Cornflakes has to account for. So do I just leave India alive? Make someone log in once a day for a while....... Convert to AI?

Do I leave the cottages at Zu? I'm turning everything else in to a production city. I'm pretty sure Cornflakes sadly pillaged the two bare grassland tiles or decision would be easier.

Other domestic news is I finished Heroic Epic and this was last turn for National Epic. I'm super sad I don't have stone still to get some pro castles going. They MIGHT* still be worth it.    

In foreign news Pin pinned me down for at least cancelling open borders with Cornflakes. Both Pin and SD expect me to hop in in about 8 turns. Maybe? I'm still trying to figure out the best way to balance this whole thing. Being at 19 cities sounds like a good first step.

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Convert to AI?

Lurker thoughts?

T166



Used 1 cat and two obsolete axes to soften up the capital and knights all won. I ended turn before I remembered to take a screenshot, so you can see I'm doing some development stuff domestically.



I'm positive there is a path to victory here, but its going to involve threading a needle. And mind you I have definite thoughts on who I want to win if its not me. IE NOT Pin, so Cornflakes most likely.

SD has been bugging me CONSTANTLY about joining the Cornflakes "war". I could mind. I could do exactly what they seem to be doing:



Yaaaa; it looks like everyone is just sitting starring at each other. I gave SD a 6 turn countdown (which I believe is consistent with prior messaging). To help me figure things out I actually teched alphabet. Cornflakes has education, but I think went up aesthetics line recently (he doesn't have either epic, but I imagine his cap is working on Heroic epic atm).

Speaking of heroic epics, I recommend if you have ggs planted (I have 1) in your heroic city to sometimes* consider producing just a ton of lower tier units. I need STUFF right now. I have a long border with Cornflakes, a crazy person who might attack me if I don't show enough support, and backstabber. Therefore, I've actually been only 1 turn units from there (so mainly elephants). Slow builds in other cities are cats and any city whipping units is doing knights. But as stated I have markets and courthouses in a lot of places atm.