[PB78] Underdogs and undercats: The Mrrshan warlords visit the world of Civ IV

[thrawn]

Thanks. At least this micro isn't messed up too bad. I was concerned that scooter had given the barb cities some culture boost that would prevent them from flipping normally.

So will the capital definitely be safe then? If I lose it...

[xist10]

No, the capital is not safe.
You can lose the 1% fight.

But yes, there will be a unit in the capital.

[thrawn]

It's just warrior next turn, archer fight in 2 turns but you are right that for it it's best to have both units in. The ivory camp is gone btw.

[thrawn]

The barbs moved towards the pig instead of attacking so I attacked out with one of the dogs and lost a 86.6%. There actually was a better move but I didn't think it through properly again so it's my fault. It will be very hard to recover from here.

[ljubljana]

damn.... what a silly game the variance in civ4 early combat especially is so much more significant than in VI - i don't know if i'll ever have it in me to play a barbs-on game...

well, we are playing a variant from here for sure, but i guess that's the RB way lol. at least nobody is around to immediately take advantage of our fragility here. fwiw (PB75 spoilers)

mjmd lost a city to gav extremely early, and had 6 cities when the rest of us had 9, and is now the arguable favorite - inconclusive war is just so mutually destructive in this game that if we are left alone for long enough, i think we still have a chance, even if the early barb situation is pretty much as grim as it can get short of losing cities

[scooter]

The barbs moved towards the pig instead of attacking so I attacked out with one of the dogs and lost a 86.6%. There actually was a better move but I didn't think it through properly again so it's my fault. It will be very hard to recover from here.

I have definitely seen worse setbacks salvaged before. All you can really do is keep your head down and hope the game repays you at some point.

[thrawn]

The setback isn't a problem. I like digging myself out of holes and lose interest when I have a winning but protracted position.

The problem is that I've been feeling bad about playing because of taking time from other RL priorities. This is what led to the mistakes too - not that they were big by any means but usually I pay that extra level of attention and find the best solution, not the second best. However I don't back out of commitments either especially after a setback and will keep going unless/until there is someone who's happy to take over, which was the plan from the beginning - I said during sign up that I'd like to step down when the game gets more involved.

However the problem may resolve itself soon enough because -

[thrawn]

Turn 40

Last turn's combat:



Barb attack on the interturn part one:



Barb attack on the interturn part two:



The result? There are now nine barbarian cities



And as a bonus:

[xist10]

That are some unlucky rolls.
A lost dog is general civ risk, but a lost capital ?

How to you want to proceed von here ?
Option A) ask for a reload. I‘m not sure if this gets an approval or even if this changes something, but…
B) try to built a dog quickly in the second city and try to recapture Fierias
(and C) throw the towel)

[thrawn]

No reloads I was going to say earlier that in the end I was quite happy actually that we didn't reload for the research.

No throwing in the towel either.

Will see what to do from here - need to examine the options more closely.