October 2nd, 2024, 17:48
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Commodore's golden age ended with him adopting Mercantilism / Theocracy. Shorter than expected, but I guess Banking is all he needed, and Mercantilism makes sense for him, with so many cities and me not signing OB
He is still out of slavery though.... admittedly slavery becomes less powerful as cities grow larger, and he likely thinks his army is big enough to deter an invasion. And tbf he can already start building his own knights without slavery, and my invasion is not imminent (and I didn't even ask about Pindicator joining yet, can't commit to an invasion turn until I'm certain I can claim the horses
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Pindicator's sword showed up at the barb city
I probably can get the first mace there in time to take it even if Pindicator attacks twice and wins twice, but would like to do so amicably
Hence, AI diplo attempt
Intended meaning: let me have this spot, and we can go attack Commodore in 10 turns
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Tbf if Pindicator kills some of the defenders for me, it would speed up my timetable a little, as revolt timer will be rolling while workers are still sailing. But I don't want him to feel I stole the city without saying anything
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Pindicator sent back just a war with Commodore from both sides and iron for iron. Not sure he understood the message
Next turn I will land the first mace next to the city, in his view, and see how he reacts (the rest of the expeditionary force is a couple turns behind)
October 4th, 2024, 10:32
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I made a fairly big blunder. I thought Pindicator didn't have units which could reach the barb city this turn - I forgot keshiks exist
I could've taken the city this turn if I looked first. But I didn't, and unloaded the only unit I had which could hit it
Remind me please, if I send several diplo messages to Pindicator on the same turn, will he see them in the order I sent them, or in reverse?
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(October 4th, 2024, 10:32)yuris125 Wrote: Remind me please, if I send several diplo messages to Pindicator on the same turn, will he see them in the order I sent them, or in reverse?
99.9% certain they appear in the order sent.
October 4th, 2024, 14:12
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Thanks!
So, diplo
First: recommitment to common war against Commodore
Second: I really need horses (not only does this message hopefully conveys the desperation, but makes it easy to see that I don't have them)
Third: let me have the horse/pig city
Don't think I can be much clearer, but of course, AI diplo is open to interpretation. But you see why the order was important, I wanted the message which can be interpreted as a demand to be last
If Pindicator goes ahead and takes the city, I will ask for it - doesn't get much plainer. If he doesn't let me have it, the war is not happening
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Do you think settling the islands can make up for your quality of land up until now?
"I know that Kilpatrick is a hell of a damned fool, but I want just that sort of man to command my cavalry on this expedition."
- William Tecumseh Sherman
October 4th, 2024, 14:49
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No. The islands would be split between Pindicator and myself, and while I would be settling them and getting new cities up to speed, Commodore would only get farther ahead. War is the only answer now I believe
If I didn't cede the peninsula which allowed galley access to these islands to Pindicator, and I settled them earlier, then perhaps - land on them is faily high quality, and of course any island cities would've benefitted from Colossus. But as I said before, the decision to not contest the peninsula made sense at the time
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Diplo success!
Pindicator's message was "horse/pig for fish/crab/sheep/corn", so I take it I should not contest the rest of the island and Aryan. I'm perfectly happy with that. Notably, he did not include copper/cow, so I guess the eastern island is fair game
4 turns revolt after taking the city. Annoying, but nothing for it, as I didn't prepare to raze/resettle
Me trying to hide from Commodore that I have Guilds is not going to work - he's going to see my workshops go from 1/2 to 1/3, thanks to still having a scouting workboat from back when we fought over Ulm
Of course, depends on how much attention he's paying, this is much less obvious than seeing Guilds research on the score pane
Cities are building harbours, should help me still have an economy once knight whipping starts. I should also have time to get a settler for the copper/cow island before then
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